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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:45:57 -0800
To: "Ian P. Christian" <pookey@pookey.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Syntax in PHP 6
From: andrei@gravitonic.com (Andrei Zmievski)

Would my response have been better if it had had a smiley attached?

I've been on both sides of this: as a language user, back in 1998,  
and as the developer since then. A lot of times it feels that the  
users take a lot for granted and expect the developers to produce a  
positive response to their requests. Some go as far as to _demand_  
that the language change according to their wishes. The issue that  
Rowan brought up had been discussed multiple times before and the  
general consensus has not changed, so saying that "it sucks" is,  
while cathartic to some degree, is an exercise in futility. I was  
suggesting a better use of his time. :)

That's all I'll say about this.

-Andrei


On Nov 21, 2005, at 4:45 PM, Ian P. Christian wrote:

> On Tuesday 22 November 2005 00:20, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
>
>> Maybe you should start a new language. With sensible function names,
>> and anything else that you may desire. I hear it's a good exercise.
>>
>
> Accepting the risk of starting a flame war where 101 PHP developers  
> start to
> hate me, I feel I should comment on this.
>
> I can't help but think this was a completely pointless email showing a
> complete lack of respect to a PHP user. I'm sure he is as nearly  
> all PHP
> users will be, extremely grateful for PHP and the work people like  
> yourselves
> put into the project.  Having said this, mails like the one you  
> just posted
> are pointlessly insulting and achieve nothing.  It doesn't make you  
> look
> good, in fact, I would suggest emails like this act quite contrary.  I
> honestly don't want to start a flame war, and as such will not be  
> drawn into
> a war by replying to any replied to this message.
>
> Andrei, I do appreciate your work - honestly I do. I just really do  
> feel
> annoyance when developers publicly show this kind of behaviour.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> -- 
> Ian P. Christian ~ http://pookey.co.uk
>