Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:20015 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42662 invoked by uid 1010); 15 Nov 2005 17:20:33 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42647 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2005 17:20:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Nov 2005 17:20:33 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 195.227.108.51 wfserver02.wf-ppr.de Windows 2000 SP2+, XP SP1 (seldom 98 4.10.2222) Received: from ([195.227.108.51:15495] helo=wfserver02.wf-ppr.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id C5/D3-07637-0E81A734 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:20:33 -0500 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:20:26 +0100 Message-ID: <00A2E2156BEE8446A81C8881AE117F192C1B02@companyweb> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [PHP-DEV] Upgrade notes for 5.1 Thread-Index: AcXqAGbrlgAnLhkPQVuST/QeYFDPlwABYQTA To: "internals" Subject: AW: [PHP-DEV] Upgrade notes for 5.1 From: mp@webfactory.de ("Matthias Pigulla") I think all of us who were upset making the transition to 4.4.0 would = greatly appreciate if (in the future) there will not only be short = "there's a new release" notices, but if these notices would directly = point to a list like this one.=20 E. g. MySQL does a pretty good job with their upgrade notes, so you know = before the upgrade what problems to expect; they also explicitly list = all the "incompatible changes" (and there are quite some with MySQL5). Maybe for some folks on this list the changes are well-known or obvious = and compiling a list like this one seems to be unnecessary. But most of = the sysops and developers out there don't have the time to keep up with = all the changes and don't like the fear of shooting themselves in the = foot with every new update/-grade/release. And they are especially = afraid after what happened with 4.4.0, so this is a good step to = reestablish some trust. Put simply, this is the professionalism expected in = "business/enterprise" environments :). Matthias > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Steph Fox [mailto:steph@zend.com]=20 > Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. November 2005 17:18 > An: internals > Betreff: [PHP-DEV] Upgrade notes for 5.1 >=20 >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > I've already canvassed Ilia and Stas - can anyone else think=20 > of anything I've missed/mis-explained here? >=20 > Thanks guys/guyess, >=20 > - Steph >=20