Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:19594 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 81185 invoked by uid 1010); 13 Oct 2005 19:23:55 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 81150 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2005 19:23:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Oct 2005 19:23:54 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 84.60.28.133 dslb-084-060-028-133.pools.arcor-ip.net Received: from ([84.60.28.133:3731] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id D0/D5-18540-05EAE434 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:58:24 -0400 Message-ID: To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:58:16 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <99dd4f75f4ceebfe1c980cf439e97416@gravitonic.com> <4346E00A.8020504@prohost.org> <4346E0C5.3090001@lerdorf.com> <434E8281.8050305@prohost.org> In-Reply-To: <434E8281.8050305@prohost.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-By: 84.60.28.133 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Unicode Implementation From: oliver.graetz@arcor.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Oliver_Gr=E4tz?=) Ilia Alshanetsky schrieb: >>And remember: PHP6 will not be released for at least a year. So by then >>typical servers will run at several hundred MHz more, so perhaps the >>speed penalty won't be noticed at all. > And people will do more with PHP ultimately making the MHz boost > irrelevant. Despite tremendous increases in hardware performance, the > software we run seems to run slower and slower. Which doesn't stop them from moving from PHP to Ruby (which I suppose is slower than PHP will ever be). I know that more power is always eaten by more complex software but this is not valid for ordinary applications. >>This is even more true compared >>to the current speed of PHP as there will (If I recall this correctly) >>be significant performance enhancements of the Zend Engine with the >>switch from 5.0 to 5.1. > > PHP 5.0 is MUCH slower the PHP 5.1, all PHP 5.1 does is bring the > performance back on part with 4.X in most cases (not all, even) when > used in conjunction with an opcode code cache such as APC. The microbenchmarks on http://www.ister.org/code/article/de/php45bench.xhtml indicate that PHP5 is slower than PHP4, but in the note at the end there is some evidence that PHP5.1 will be significantly faster than PHP4 when it comes to objects and classes (which is what people who "do more with PHP" will be using). AllOLLi ____________ Backup? Backup? ...I knew I forgot something!