Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:19580 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 73359 invoked by uid 1010); 13 Oct 2005 07:27:45 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 73338 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2005 07:27:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Oct 2005 07:27:45 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 195.225.34.5 fw01.axit.nl Received: from ([195.225.34.5:18488] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 4A/9C-54476-07C0E434 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 03:27:44 -0400 Message-ID: <4A.9C.54476.07C0E434@pb1.pair.com> To: internals@lists.php.net References: <99dd4f75f4ceebfe1c980cf439e97416@gravitonic.com> <4346E00A.8020504@prohost.org> <4346E0C5.3090001@lerdorf.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:27:41 +0200 Lines: 44 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Posted-By: 195.225.34.5 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Unicode Implementation From: r.korving@xit.nl ("Ron Korving") Well, if you want my 2 cents as well, the 2 cents a PHP user is very willing to share with you guys... PHP6 is a major release. BC is a priority, but as far as I'm concerned not the top priority. I wouldn't mind a unicode-only PHP at all. Like a few others here, I think the speed penalty won't be huge at all. It's not like my scripts are 90% string handling (and I assume the unicode benchmark scripts are). I wouldn't want you guys having a messy codebase just because you want to support non-unicode and unicode. I also wouldn't want you guys branching to a non-unicode line of PHP releases. It would just be too much. As far as I'm concerned, I'd be fine with a unicode only PHP6. Unicode is progress. I think a lot of the people who don't want it, don't yet see the positive things it brings. Ron "Peter Brodersen" schreef in bericht news:s7hkk1l00v0gerlccnsc0937ov977j5og4@4ax.com... On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 00:55:45 -0400 (EDT), in php.internals adam@trachtenberg.com (Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg) wrote: >We seem to be under the impression that the Unicode speed penalty will >be so harsh that a Unicode-only PHP 6 will be too slow for >use. However, we don't know that for sure. Yes, it will be slower, >when you look at the whole request cycle, it may not matter. I agree - the speed penalty comparsion seems mostly related to php scripts that does nothing else than handling strings. I recall the old discussions (echo vs print vs ?>...