Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:19495 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 57890 invoked by uid 1010); 7 Oct 2005 21:45:06 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 57875 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2005 21:45:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Oct 2005 21:45:06 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.80.117.3 longsword.omniti.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from ([66.80.117.3:41721] helo=mail.omniti.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 46/B6-54476-16CE6434 for ; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:45:05 -0400 Authentication-Results: mail.omniti.com smtp.user=george; auth=pass (LOGIN) DomainKey-Status: good X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_sign implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 DomainKey-Signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=test; d=omniti.com; h=Received:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=A0qKB9oEluIJiyNs6cz7g1WW8AWHVpcmsSWfu6cMPSv1n8VsWh89EzaPssMnGCk5 w7LJQtTuEnKTMUr1R7tdowqKB60sYUaJ1kj2yqWDDPY02wFaTmDAx9WfWPqvxLbQ Received: from ([66.80.117.2:53510] helo=[10.80.116.150]) by mail.omniti.com (ecelerity 2.0 r(6738)) with SMTP id 70/21-09190-95CE6434 for ; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:45:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4346EB85.4020509@lerdorf.com> References: <99dd4f75f4ceebfe1c980cf439e97416@gravitonic.com> <4346E00A.8020504@prohost.org> <4346E0C5.3090001@lerdorf.com> <4346EABE.6000706@prohost.org> <4346EB85.4020509@lerdorf.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-ID: Cc: George Schlossnagle , Ilia Alshanetsky , Derick Rethans , PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 17:44:56 -0400 To: Rasmus Lerdorf X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Unicode Implementation From: george@omniti.com (George Schlossnagle) On Oct 7, 2005, at 5:41 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > >> George Schlossnagle wrote: >> >> >>>> What is wrong with PHP 5.1? People don't *have* to upgrade to the >>>> unicode enabled PHP if they don't want to. And it would probably be >>>> "nice" to have that mode for some users, but should that be >>>> over our own >>>> back with multiple implementations of everything? >>>> >>> >>> >>> Are you suggesting that people who don't want unicode should >>> stick with >>> 5.1 for perpetuity? >>> >> >> >> Assuming that 5.1 would be actively maintained and not just for bug >> fixes, I'd say that is a viable approach. There are plenty of >> sites that >> have no use for Unicode as nice as it may be, and much rather retain >> performance over useless (for them) functionality. >> > > So, you are saying that something like the namespace patch would be > added between 5.1.2 and 5.1.3, for example? That doesn't make much > sense to me. Perhaps we need a separate version fork for the unicode support. I'm thinking one of those nifty unicode glyphs. It could be called 'the language formerly known as PHP'. George