Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:19305 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 32378 invoked by uid 1010); 30 Sep 2005 12:53:10 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 32362 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2005 12:53:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Sep 2005 12:53:10 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.184.205 wproxy.gmail.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([64.233.184.205:42237] helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 96/66-54476-6353D334 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:53:10 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i21so156980wra for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 05:53:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BbkjFsKEqb5b6zh2DR4XiKZ/RvAQ6fVDtFk+hCJGp67Aonq1ZvcyKCR1cDsDL6zqJZSNiQ4/lGBplGV8gtq3u8iod7qIJX6ziJ+uIkPSlNvhVgMfP7X4gZuyZLBYSpJuRP/dmLLEBTb4s5x4is2m9V2/4yjopojxfkqQVqt46z8= Received: by 10.54.16.64 with SMTP id 64mr843352wrp; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 05:53:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.76.6 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 05:53:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4e89b4260509300553r7581a563u2a580c4106a341d5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:53:07 -0400 Reply-To: Wez Furlong To: Derick Rethans Cc: Andi Gutmans , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <433ABE48.6050607@lerdorf.com> <6.2.3.4.2.20050928155517.04710860@localhost> <6.2.3.4.2.20050929073711.0453cd30@localhost> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] timezones & date() breakage From: kingwez@gmail.com (Wez Furlong) 20 known (and worked-around) bugs are "better" than an unknown quantity of unknown bugs. Remember: it worked "yesterday" but with the minor release it stops working= . Just because the new version works for you, doesn't mean it isn't broken for others :) Can you honestly guarantee that it's not going to be a BC break by the time we release? Are you really sure it's worth risking the stability of so many apps? --Wez. On 9/30/05, Derick Rethans wrote: > > Anyway, please give some more insight so that the situation is clear. > > As stated in my previous email, irregardless, as Wez pointed out having= two > > sets of APIs is probably a better idea so that everyone is happy. > > That also means that we're reintroducing about a 20 bugs again. Please > remember that the whole idea *why* I started with it was that the code > now is broken, even although it might seem to work fine for you.