Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:19225 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 66438 invoked by uid 1010); 28 Sep 2005 07:02:20 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 66422 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2005 07:02:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Sep 2005 07:02:20 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 84.56.22.139 dsl-084-056-022-139.arcor-ip.net Received: from ([84.56.22.139:5693] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id A3/1B-54476-BFF3A334 for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 03:02:19 -0400 To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 09:02:16 +0200 Message-ID: <20050928090216.2d6785f7@localhost.localdomain> References: <433944EA.6070904@prohost.org> <43394FF3.4000208@prohost.org> X-Newsreader: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.14 (GTK+ 2.6.10; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-By: 84.56.22.139 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] timezones & date() breakage From: pierre@dotgeek.org (Pierre) On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:58:11 -0400 ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky) wrote: > Yes, initially there will be some short-term pain in converting > existing apps, but for the long term it'll provide a robust and > portable solution. If we add "legacy" flag or INI setting, I feel > that we'd be taking a step backwards in terms of making applications > portable. The only problem being to "break" things between 5.0 and 5.1. The ext/date should have been a separate extension without touching the existing code based. This way allowed to provide rock solid and portable solutions and keeps BC with all working applications. This was what I said for months without too much success. This was even our plan to add pecl/date as ext/date in 5.1 but Derick thought it is better to go this way, so it goes... --Pierre