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Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 19:34:14 +0300
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Subject: Re: PHP 6.0 Wishlist
From: grasu32@gmail.com (Ovidiu Farauanu)

I am PHP programmer since a time and I wish php to be more closed to a
serious language. I am annoyed by a lot of things in PHP. For example
in the following code:

<?php
while($ch !=3D EOF) $thestring .=3D $ch;
print $thestring;
?>

I ask you why $thestring is available outside of the while loop. I
don't want to be boring but php have serious problems like
no-namespaces. It gives headaches to any C programmer. It is PHP
created for designers with no programming knowledge or for real
programmers. Why not let the graphical webmasters to use other SSI
like Escapade :) (just kiding).

Please read : Why PHP sucks (for large systems) Edwin Martin
<edwin@bitstorm.org>, PHP Annoyances, I hate PHP, Experiences of Using
PHP in Large Websites, Aaron Crane <aaron.crane@gbdirect.co.uk>

It is PHP created for average programmers or by average programmers. I
don't think so ...maybe it is just  oversimplification that leads to
excessive complexity ... just saying...

On 8/25/05, Stanislav Malyshev <stas@zend.com> wrote:
> JM>>I think I remember reading that PHP always evaluates expressions from
> right
> JM>>to left, so I guess there may be a considerable codebase change
> required.
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> you couldn't easily do otherwise, and the benefit just doesn't justify th=
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> investment of effort in this.
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> Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer
> stas@zend.com  http://www.zend.com/ +972-3-6139665 ext.115
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