Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:17997 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 9631 invoked by uid 1010); 13 Aug 2005 21:27:13 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 9616 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2005 21:27:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Aug 2005 21:27:13 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 194.109.193.120 unknown Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([194.109.193.120:46817] helo=mx1.moulin.nl) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.0 beta r(6323M)) with SMTP id 8B/E5-33075-0B56EF24 for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:27:12 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.moulin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB1A8EA35 for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 23:27:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mx1.moulin.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moulin [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31638-14 for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 23:27:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.0.8] (ip154-81-59-81.dyndsl.versatel.nl [81.59.81.154]) by mx1.moulin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572E78A0ED for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 23:27:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42FE65A8.3030903@iamjochem.com> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 23:27:04 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: internals References: <42FCE0E4.604@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: <42FCE0E4.604@lerdorf.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at moulin.nl Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6.0 Wishlist From: jochem@iamjochem.com (Jochem Maas) for what its worth - brilliant :-) aftering reading the remarks about perl6 (love the idea of you guys winning that 'race' :-) I did a little reading, seems perl6 is aimed to target Parrot... I remember there was discussion about this for php, don't know if the idea died a lonely death or was just put in the deepfreeze - maybe it's something to consider? Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > Since we are breaking a lot of stuff in 6.0, at least with > Unicode_semantics=On I am wondering if it may not be time to break some > more stuff and do a bit of spring cleaning. It would mean many apps > would need some work to work on PHP 6, but at the same time I think it > is work people would welcome since it would mostly involve removing > hacks instead of adding them. And yes, I know this is pretty > controversial, so take a few deep breaths before replying, please. > > 1. Remove register_globals completely > > 2. Remove magic_quotes_* > > 3. Add input filter extension which will include a mechanism for > application developers to very easily turn it off which would swap > the raw GPC arrays back in case the site had it turned on by default. > > 4. Include an opcode cache by default. A lot of work has gone into > pecl/apc recently, but I am not hung up on which one goes in. > > 5. Remove safe_mode and focus on open_basedir > > 6. Remove some stuff that has been marked deprecated since PHP 3/4 > > A couple of others that we could consider, but I don't actually think > wins us much apart from academic purity (which I have never been all > that keen on) are: > > 7. Make identifiers case-sensitive > > 8. Remove various function aliases > > -Rasmus >