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Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 12:42:08 -0700
To: "Ron Korving" <r.korving@xit.nl>,internals@lists.php.net
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Moving to PHP5.1 and Apache 2.2 next year, need
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From: andi@zend.com (Andi Gutmans)

We've made a start a long time ago, and we do our best to keep all of PHP 
thread-safe. On paper it is. When a bug appears we fix it. Is it a risk to 
run it... I think it is but I have seen people running it successfully on 
IIS for a long time. (I still think that's a bad idea though).

Andi

At 07:09 PM 8/9/2005 +0200, Ron Korving wrote:
>Nonetheless, Rasmus, isn't it something to work on? Like Steve said, #1 and
>#2 can be accomplished, and that would at least be a good start. You are
>right about the libraries, but in time, even these may become thread safe
>(of course, likely not by anyone from the PHP-community). Why is this
>thread-safety such a taboo for many of the people here? Don't get me wrong,
>I know it can't be done in one go, but a start could be made, right? Perhaps
>that start could be made from PHP6 on? It doesn't have to be officially
>thread safe, because of all the libraries, but it could be thread-safer...
>
>Ron
>
>
>"Rasmus Lerdorf" <rasmus@lerdorf.com> wrote in message
>news:42F82AE3.6070602@lerdorf.com...
> > steve roussey wrote:
> > > I have read and understand that there are a number of issues:
> > >
> > > 1. Problems with the Apache2 sapi
> > > 2. Problems with thread safety in the Zend Engine or PHP itself
> > > 3. Problems with thread-safety of modules
> >
> > You missed the most serious one.  Thread safety problems in random
> > libraries you link in and we have absolutely no control over those.
> >
> > My stuff is far bigger and busier than yours, and I have absolutely no
> > intention to go threaded anytime soon.
> >
> > -Rasmus
>
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