Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:17287 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 81014 invoked by uid 1010); 17 Jul 2005 18:52:21 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 80999 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2005 18:52:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Jul 2005 18:52:20 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.11.173.122 unknown Received: from ([66.11.173.122:20910] helo=interjinn.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity HEAD r(6212)) with SMTP id E3/4B-10960-1E8AAD24 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:52:20 -0400 Received: from blobule.suds (blobule.suds [192.168.1.3]) by interjinn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C37C211FB69 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:52:14 -0400 (EDT) To: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain Organization: InterJinn Message-ID: <1121626339.23752.24.camel@blobule.suds> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5-4mdk Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:52:19 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Reference Notice From: robert@interjinn.com (Robert Cummings) I think the reference notice stuff is a bit ridiculous. I mean I can understand the concern behind: function &foo() { return $fee.$fii; } But I mean the following gives errors too which is a bit too anal retentive even for my liking: function &foo() { $fee = 'bullshitBullshitBullshit'; return $fee; } function &fee() { return foo(); } fee(); Anyways my two cents. Seems moronic that I now need to worry about stupid reference notices X levels deep in the code for functions that I'm consuming. I gueeeeeeeeeeeeess I can assign return values EVERYWHERE to temporary variables just to get rid of the notices, but really, shouldn't the engine be happy enough returning references to it's own intermediate variable? I mean, heck, the engine knows enough to print a warning, it can do the work-- and a hell of a lot faster than developers having to temporarily assign everything. Cheers, Rob. -- .------------------------------------------------------------. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :------------------------------------------------------------: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `------------------------------------------------------------'