Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:17243 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 58264 invoked by uid 1010); 12 Jul 2005 18:53:36 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 58248 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2005 18:53:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pb1.pair.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jul 2005 18:53:36 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.94.239.5 jdi.jdi-ict.nl Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from ([82.94.239.5:37913] helo=jdi.jdi-ict.nl) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 1.2 r(5656M)) with SMTP id 05/FD-23681-DA114D24 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:53:33 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jdi.jdi-ict.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6CIrT4k010586 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:53:29 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jdi.jdi-ict.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6CIrH4T010559; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:53:18 +0200 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:53:16 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: derick@localhost To: Chuck Hagenbuch cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <20050712105234.5dhkvvd6ghcsw8sg@marina.horde.org> Message-ID: References: <20050712105234.5dhkvvd6ghcsw8sg@marina.horde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at jdi-ict.nl Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] php 4.4 BC break From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Chuck Hagenbuch wrote: > Relax, I'm not debating the decision. Just: > > PLEASE can someone put a big fat warning on the php 4.4 announcement on > www.php.net that it breaks existing code? > > I already have people upgrading to it and wondering why they get tons of > warnings now. We're fixing them as quick as we can, but honestly, given that > PHP never gave us a notice about them before, there are going to be a lot, and > a lot in old releases too. It'd be helpful if on the php side people were at > least given a chance not to shoot themselves in the foot. They were already shooting them in the foot by using references wrong... and you did have about a month to test your code (Horde I presume) with the new PHP 4.4 release candidates. And it's just a notice... which you should always have off on a production machine. So I don't think we should put a BIG warning on php.net because people didn't quite understand how references worked (me included). regards, Derick -- Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl | http://ez.no | http://xdebug.org