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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] is_callable and method_exists always true when __call
	is defined
From: tularis@php.net ("M. Sokolewicz")

I would expect is_callable() to return true (since it is callable), but 
method_exists() to return false (since it doesn't really exist, it's 
magic)... at least, that's what would make most sense to me...

Marcus Boerger wrote:
> Hello Davey,
> 
>   if you ask me it is stupid to return true because __call exists since the
> user can pretty easy do that by adding one more check. But he can in no way
> query if the function really exists or not (well he can use reflection but
> that is thousand times slower...)
> 
> regards
> marcus
> 
> Saturday, July 9, 2005, 6:08:03 AM, you wrote:
> 
> 
>>Dear all,
> 
> 
>>I came across something when I found this bug 
>>(http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=33621).
> 
> 
>>Should is_callable() and method_exists() always return true when the 
>>method doesn't *really* exist? i.e. it would only be called via __call()
> 
> 
>>Is it possible to add an argument to make it only check "real" methods 
>>at the very least? Or some way to additionally distinguish between these
>>two things?
> 
> 
>>- Davey
> 
> 
> 
> 
>