Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:16738 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42678 invoked by uid 1010); 16 Jun 2005 15:59:13 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42621 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2005 15:59:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pb1.pair.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Jun 2005 15:59:13 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 204.11.219.139 lerdorf.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([204.11.219.139:58253] helo=colo.lerdorf.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 1.2 r(5656M)) with SMTP id A7/FE-20931-FFA91B24 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:30:08 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.106] (c-24-6-1-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.1.160]) (authenticated bits=0) by colo.lerdorf.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id j5GFU2EW019426 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:30:03 -0700 Message-ID: <42B19AFB.8000502@lerdorf.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:30:03 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derick Rethans CC: Lukas Smith , internals@lists.php.net References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] forward compatibility "public" in 4.4 From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) Derick Rethans wrote: > Hello, > > after reading this very long thread, and problems with having the public > keyword I decided not to allow any kind of forward compability to be > introduced into PHP 4.4. Discussion is over. Yeah, I think the change really needs to be in PHP5 instead. Right now the E_STRICT warnings in PHP5 on this stuff are not very useful. They are just strict enough to be annoying by warning about "var" but not strict enough to be useful because there is no warning on undeclared properties. -Rasmus