Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:16588 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 27872 invoked by uid 1010); 10 Jun 2005 04:31:04 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 27854 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2005 04:31:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lerdorf.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Jun 2005 04:31:04 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 204.11.219.139 lerdorf.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([204.11.219.139:35164] helo=colo.lerdorf.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 1.2 r(5656M)) with SMTP id 45/47-21296-78719A24 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 00:31:04 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.106] (c-24-6-1-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.1.160]) (authenticated bits=0) by colo.lerdorf.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id j5A4Uwr7025783 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:30:59 -0700 Message-ID: <42A91782.8070308@lerdorf.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 21:30:58 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Schlossnagle CC: Andi Gutmans , internals@lists.php.net References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050603203711.028e9140@localhost> <200506051859.53976.magnus@php.net> <6E.27.21296.C90E7A24@pb1.pair.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050609153713.036905b0@localhost> <9F37478F-BA49-4FEA-B8E3-F08D6802CDD2@omniti.com> In-Reply-To: <9F37478F-BA49-4FEA-B8E3-F08D6802CDD2@omniti.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.1 From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) George Schlossnagle wrote: >> It's for the benefit of all to make progress and not slow the release >> cycle to a halt, especially for people who are looking forward to the >> "major" features. We have some great stuff coming and it'll go bad if >> we don't move the major pieces along. > > I think this is an excellent idea. All of the features being debated > hotly now are extremely minor compared to good unicode support, and > given the broad effect of that change, getting it into HEAD and thus > into mainstream development usage would be a really good thing. Yes, I am pretty sure the current discussions will pale in comparison to the chaos that will be created when the Unicode stuff goes into HEAD! ;) We need to get this code in front of more eyes as soon as possible so people can start to share this pain. -Rasmus