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Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:13:56 -0400
To: Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.1
From: george@omniti.com (George Schlossnagle)


On Jun 9, 2005, at 6:51 PM, Andi Gutmans wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Finally catching up with all the million comments. Definitely a way  
> to get distracted from real work :)
>
> I don't want to get distracted from what I consider should be the  
> main objective and bigger issues than yes to one or another feature.
> We should get PDO, new execution engine and some other changes out  
> to the public.
> We need to fold in the Unicode changes into public CVS before we  
> have a maintenance nightmare. We can't manage more than two PHP 5  
> branches at once. It'll be unmaintainable and tough.
>
> I'll roll PHP 5.1 Beta 1 tomorrow. Hopefully we will then start  
> getting some very much needed feedback from the public for HEAD.
>
> After talking to Andrei & Rasmus, I think it becomes clear that we  
> should aim to RC 5.1 in the beginning of July so that we can close  
> the 5.0.x branch and merge Unicode into HEAD. There will hopefully  
> then be a quick development cycle for upgrading a lot of functions  
> for Unicode support, and in addition we could address some features  
> like goto, and other improvements which are required. Releasing 5.1  
> doesn't mean 5.5 or 6.0 (whatever we call the Unicode version)  
> couldn't be released this year.
> I'm sure Andrei would love that :) (so would I, and incidentally my  
> original name is Andrei too).
>
> It's for the benefit of all to make progress and not slow the  
> release cycle to a halt, especially for people who are looking  
> forward to the "major" features. We have some great stuff coming  
> and it'll go bad if we don't move the major pieces along.

I think this is an excellent idea.  All of the features being debated  
hotly now are extremely minor compared to good unicode support, and  
given the broad effect of that change, getting it into HEAD and thus  
into mainstream development usage would be a really good thing.

George