Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:15776 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 41365 invoked by uid 1010); 4 Apr 2005 00:54:29 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 41350 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2005 00:54:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ebay.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 00:54:28 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.58.150.153 miranda.org Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([209.58.150.153:58857] helo=miranda.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity HEAD r(5268)) with SMTP id 5E/BC-19272-34090524 for ; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 20:54:27 -0400 Received: (qmail 24907 invoked by uid 546); 4 Apr 2005 00:54:24 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 00:54:24 -0000 Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:54:24 -0400 (EDT) X-X-Sender: adam@miranda.org To: Marcus Boerger cc: Andi Gutmans , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <838524474.20050403181204@marcus-boerger.de> Message-ID: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050402185139.027d4cc0@localhost> <838524474.20050403181204@marcus-boerger.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.1 Beta 1 From: adam@trachtenberg.com (Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg) On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Marcus Boerger wrote: > Can we get some things straight first (i guess that's the idea of an alpha). > I'd like to reintroduce __toString() since 5.1 is supposed to make it work > again. The patching should be easy enough since we left in most of the > necessary code as we planned to reintroduce it in the first place. This is also my own list of things to fix in 5.1. For example, look at how Rasmus has to use string casting in SimpleXML: http://toys.lerdorf.com/archives/33-Buzzing-the-Yahoo!-Search-Web-Services.html IMHO, needing to cast for such basic behavior is not in the spirit of PHP, and it's certainly not simple. -adam -- adam@trachtenberg.com | http://www.trachtenberg.com author of o'reilly's "upgrading to php 5" and "php cookbook" avoid the holiday rush, buy your copies today!