Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:15622 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 67189 invoked by uid 1010); 26 Mar 2005 07:20:13 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 67174 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2005 07:20:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thieso.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Mar 2005 07:20:13 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 151.189.21.41 mail-in-01.arcor-online.net Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([151.189.21.41:42787] helo=mail-in-01.arcor-online.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity HEAD r(5268)) with SMTP id 3A/54-51637-C2D05424 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:20:12 -0500 Received: from tc.ma.cx (dsl-084-059-201-234.arcor-ip.net [84.59.201.234]) by mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C894113B72C; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:20:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (schnuffel [127.0.0.1]) by tc.ma.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0036D119B1; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:20:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from tc.ma.cx ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (schnuffel.thieso.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17310-05; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:20:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.255.7] (mini.thieso.net [192.168.255.7]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tc.ma.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F37A25D1E; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:20:09 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <4e89b42605032516474df603db@mail.gmail.com> References: <4e89b42605032516474df603db@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Thies C.Arntzen , Jani Taskinen , internals@lists.php.net Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:20:05 +0100 To: Wez Furlong X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at thieso.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] pdo: patch to make leading colon unneeded for bound variables without breaking BC. From: thies@thieso.net (Thies C . Arntzen) Am 26.03.2005 um 01:47 schrieb Wez Furlong: > There are releases on pecl.php.net, and there are (a few) people > running these in production. In addition, it's been advertised as > working this way for over a year. > > So, it is important to preserve the current behaviour when this patch > is applied (will do so this weekend; need to catch up on a lot of > things first). actually this patch needs some work (as it's a 20 minute hack on code i've never seen before). i seem to be really unlucky in getting my intention across. by accident i started a thread about: a) bad coding style /and/ b) BC breakage when all i ever wanted was c) to make the colons for bound variables optional... guys, can we please get back to the subject? this list reminds me of driving a _too_ old and broken car: "one hour of driving, 2 hours of fixing" - if it was "one hour of coding, 4 hours of documenting/testing/qa/discussing the right way.." it would be fine by me but right now it seems more like "1 hour of work, 3 hours of comparing dick-sizes with the SmarterGuys(tm)". that is screwed up! thies