Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:15478 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 98214 invoked by uid 1010); 17 Mar 2005 18:38:35 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 98173 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2005 18:38:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pb1.pair.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Mar 2005 18:38:35 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 219.103.130.34 fbdnp1.nw.wakwak.com FreeBSD 4.6-4.8 (no RFC1323) Received: from ([219.103.130.34:1601] helo=fbdnp1.nw.wakwak.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity HEAD r(5268)) with SMTP id 31/DF-63168-9AEC9324 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:38:34 -0500 Received: from mgkyb2.nw.wakwak.com (0@mgkyb2.nw.wakwak.com [211.9.231.193]) by fbdnp1.nw.wakwak.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/2005-01-31) with ESMTP id j2HIc5fr076279 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:38:06 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from moriyoshi@at.wakwak.com) Received: from vckyb2.nw.wakwak.com (vckyb2.nw.wakwak.com [211.9.230.145]) by mgkyb2.nw.wakwak.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/2005-01-27) with SMTP id j2HIaoHN066122; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:36:50 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from moriyoshi@at.wakwak.com) Received: from at.wakwak.com (at.wakwak.com [211.9.230.135]) by vckyb2.nw.wakwak.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50A040002; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:36:49 +0900 (JST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (newcycle.as.wakwak.ne.jp [218.225.209.145]) by at.wakwak.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/2005-01-26) with ESMTP/inet id j2HIanSq041470; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:36:49 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from moriyoshi@at.wakwak.com) In-Reply-To: <42397D8E.8040508@php.net> References: <42397244.2030806@php.net> <4b3d8a98d330dca4c277c0174003a0c3@at.wakwak.com> <42397D8E.8040508@php.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-ID: <34b2620360e300405ec913b0bc82d1a6@at.wakwak.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Derick Rethans , internals@lists.php.net Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:36:00 +0900 To: Lukas Smith X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] reference issue From: moriyoshi@at.wakwak.com (Moriyoshi Koizumi) On 2005/03/17, at 21:52, Lukas Smith wrote: > Derick Rethans wrote: >> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Moriyoshi Koizumi wrote: >>> That's expected behaviour. Have a look at http://bugs.php.net/20993 . >> Sorry, but this is not expected - it's a bug. > > I would also like to disagree. I think this is a huge inconsistency > that should be addressed even if that costs performance. I agree that it's not intuitive at all, though this issue was discussed ending up with the following words. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-dev&m=104018832405963&w=2 > If however the core php developers do think this behavior should > stick, then there should be a function that allows people to clean > these references without such hacks (even if internally these hacks > are still going on). I think it's possible to add such a function to the 5.x branches. Moriyoshi