Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:15256 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 50991 invoked by uid 1010); 4 Mar 2005 16:09:19 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 50976 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2005 16:09:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pb1.pair.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Mar 2005 16:09:18 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.58.150.153 miranda.org Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([209.58.150.153:36777] helo=miranda.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity HEAD r(5124)) with SMTP id D5/7C-29225-D2888224 for ; Fri, 04 Mar 2005 11:09:17 -0500 Received: (qmail 18836 invoked by uid 546); 4 Mar 2005 16:09:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Mar 2005 16:09:13 -0000 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 11:09:13 -0500 (EST) X-X-Sender: adam@miranda.org To: Matthew Charles Kavanagh cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <42284E09.9080604@teh.ath.cx> Message-ID: References: <2fd662a0050304021017e3a43c@mail.gmail.com> <42284E09.9080604@teh.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+ From: adam@trachtenberg.com (Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg) On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Matthew Charles Kavanagh wrote: > The issue in my mind is one of portability. It would be nice, as a > developer working in PHP, to be able to rely on functionality like > encryption (and other unrelated goodies) being available on Joe User's > $5/month webhost who don't go around installing fancy packages. We know. However, right now encryption does rise to that level for us. First, this attitude isn't scalable. (i.e. should PHP bundle everything? libxml2? MySQL? where is the line?) Second, the whole point of libaries is that you shouldn't need to bundle them with every package. We would prefer education instead of working around the problem. Third, there are all sorts of nasty export restrictions in some countries w/r/t crypto and I don't want to get involved with that. We've hashed this type of issue over many times. I can assure you, we won't bundle crypt at this time. It's not worth debating, really. Please don't continue asking as it will only annoy people. Honestly. :) -adam -- adam@trachtenberg.com | http://www.trachtenberg.com author of o'reilly's "upgrading to php 5" and "php cookbook" avoid the holiday rush, buy your copies today!