Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:15251 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26564 invoked by uid 1010); 4 Mar 2005 12:05:45 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26120 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2005 12:05:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO daum.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Mar 2005 12:05:35 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.250.162.16 smtpout16.mailhost.ntl.com Solaris 8 (1) Received: from ([212.250.162.16:52686] helo=mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity HEAD r(5124)) with SMTP id 5A/76-29225-50F48224 for ; Fri, 04 Mar 2005 07:05:28 -0500 Received: from aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050304120510.DJTK8887.mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2005 12:05:10 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [81.96.210.130]) by aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050304120510.COKJ1352.aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2005 12:05:10 +0000 Message-ID: <42284EF8.7040804@teh.ath.cx> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 12:05:12 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050111) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP Developers Mailing List References: <2fd662a0050304021017e3a43c@mail.gmail.com> <42284BED.1090003@teh.ath.cx> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+ From: matthew@teh.ath.cx (Matthew Charles Kavanagh) Derick Rethans wrote: > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Matthew Charles Kavanagh wrote: >>The issue in my mind is one of portability. It would be nice, as a >>developer working in PHP, to be able to rely on functionality like >>encryption (and other unrelated goodies) being available on Joe User's >>$5/month webhost who don't go around installing fancy packages. > > Get a better webhost. If you want to use PHP's more advanced (and less > used) extensions you need to pick a better host. Perhaps you're not seeing my point, or perhaps you don't care about users? I speak as a developer, not as some guy with a crap webhost, and my concern is that I would like to write applications that many people can run, not just those who take out a loan against their house to pay for webhosting. Many other developers will feel the same way as me.