Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:14888 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 68482 invoked by uid 1010); 13 Feb 2005 02:25:02 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 68450 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2005 02:25:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Feb 2005 02:25:02 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.80.117.3 longsword.omniti.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([66.80.117.3:54530] helo=mail.omniti.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 1.2.11 (r4403)) with SMTP id 91/49-04303-D7ABE024 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:25:01 -0500 DomainKey-Status: good DomainKey-Signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=test; d=omniti.com; h=Received:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=eJSro4nCSeIQ6fNVjTJUNod7s35j/86dsvo96E+nmhfQBkUYT0aRrUiA2OA64y5p XJlvJQwEJCI9/IYUEI6kwKvcAbJuefRgvJoOC7M0oncpZrVS7UxxjIHY34kkeaUW Received: from ([66.80.117.254:46047] helo=[10.0.1.4]) by mail.omniti.com (ecelerity HEAD) with SMTP id 79/DC-22836-07ABE024 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:24:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050212095658.26683.qmail@lists.php.net> References: <4e89b4260502111655215a94e8@mail.gmail.com> <20050212074627.64626.qmail@lists.php.net> <4e89b426050212001234271b83@mail.gmail.com> <20050212090244.59428.qmail@lists.php.net> <20050212095658.26683.qmail@lists.php.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: George Schlossnagle , internals@lists.php.net Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:23:07 -0500 To: Lester Caine X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Please test PDO From: george@omniti.com (George Schlossnagle) On Feb 12, 2005, at 5:01 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > Derick Rethans wrote: > >> 1. ADOdb has *nothing* to do with the PHP project > It would not exist without it. > No reason why it could not be part. Plenty of things couldn't exist without PHP. That doesn't mean that PHP needs to hold still for their sake, or have it's development beholden to their creators. But even if we lived in some Bizaro world where such was the case, there's still the point that John sees no issues with PDO and ADODB coexisting. He's clearly been aware of PDOs path for quite a while now. Here was John's viewpoint on PDO seven months ago: http://phplens.com/phpeverywhere/?q=node/view/1 It's been stated a couple times, but I'll throw my voice into this since you seem to have not captured the meaning of other people's messages: PDO and ADODB have different goals. If you don't like PDO, don't use it. If you don't want to test PDO, don't test it. If John doesn't want to include PDO support in ADODB, that's his prerogative. That wasn't the path he proposed, but if he changes his mind to that extent, then that's a problem between you and him, not between you and us. George