Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:14863 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 4728 invoked by uid 1010); 12 Feb 2005 09:39:07 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 4713 invoked by uid 1007); 12 Feb 2005 09:39:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20050212093907.4712.qmail@lists.php.net> To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:43:52 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4e89b4260502111655215a94e8@mail.gmail.com> <20050212074627.64626.qmail@lists.php.net> <4e89b426050212001234271b83@mail.gmail.com> <20050212090244.59428.qmail@lists.php.net> <4e89b4260502120123b8103c4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4e89b4260502120123b8103c4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-By: 81.138.11.136 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Please test PDO From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Wez Furlong wrote: >>Until PDO has all the same drivers - ADOdb would become a mess, so there >>is little incentive to start changing, and to be honest, you would have >>to PROVE that PDO is as fast as the raw database drivers to warrant a >>change from them. > > Right. Try it. It's faster than adodb, I assure you. > It's the as fast as the raw database drivers, because... you'll love, > this, really you will..... PDO drivers *are* raw database drivers! > wow! > Aren't you glad that you went and read up on the facts before making a > fool of yourself now?? I don't see that I am making a fool of myself? You have just answered the question. PDO is as fast as the native drivers! But it does not have all the extensions that are specific to each? So YES on it's own it will be faster than ADOdb - I don't have an argument with that - BUT it would be a backwards step to switch to it, because ADOdb picks up the engine specific facilities where possible, and provides emulation where not, so the subset that PDO supplies causes problems. >>At the present time PDO is not suitable for me and just seems to be a >>waste of expertise that could be directed to something much more useful >>such as improving the core performance of ADOdb :( > > OK, so don't use it. But *please* read up on the facts before spreading FUD. What FUD. PDO is a generic subset of the facilities required to access databases. If you need access to an engine specific function, then you still need the native driver as well? It's not a replacement for ADOdb, but at the same time, it's not suitable to use in place of the native drivers IN ADOdb - as yet. I'm just establishing the facts -- Lester Caine ----------------------------- L.S.Caine Electronic Services