Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:14860 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86194 invoked by uid 1010); 12 Feb 2005 09:23:12 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86177 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2005 09:23:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Feb 2005 09:23:12 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.184.196 wproxy.gmail.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([64.233.184.196:17203] helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 1.2.11 (r4403)) with SMTP id 61/81-37098-00BCD024 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 04:23:12 -0500 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 63so282893wri for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:23:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=egb1JQ1p3qNHWvTXqCAs2yJcEFXwD1Z3nGNee/u2ecPw6wvkvX54PlVAFuYuiQixTV6480HxHNy+x8+JQAjV8OaSuwKDpYlJFmxn9oBS12tTR3/MRSirxFHG7A6zEPT0JlS8DIcOdMfrtUj6ZRKhGCj0AVBUlbZJff0YSpmV+Mw= Received: by 10.54.17.10 with SMTP id 10mr121927wrq; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:23:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.59.22 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:23:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4e89b4260502120123b8103c4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 04:23:09 -0500 Reply-To: Wez Furlong To: Lester Caine Cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <20050212090244.59428.qmail@lists.php.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4e89b4260502111655215a94e8@mail.gmail.com> <20050212074627.64626.qmail@lists.php.net> <4e89b426050212001234271b83@mail.gmail.com> <20050212090244.59428.qmail@lists.php.net> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Please test PDO From: kingwez@gmail.com (Wez Furlong) I'm sorry, you're right and we're all wrong. All of us. We, the stupid core developers of PHP, have been, for more than 2 years off-and-on, discussing the wrong solution to the problem. How could we be so blind? Aren't we dumb? We are mistaken that the C code is inconsistent and needs fixing. We're wrong to want to make it better. We're wrong to also want to make it more uniform. yes, yes, yes, we should stick with the current state of our database extensions.... because a third party abstraction layer that uses them would need to be rewritten. Excuse me while I remove PDO from CVS. NOT!!! On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:07:29 +0000, Lester Caine > Until PDO has all the same drivers - ADOdb would become a mess, so there > is little incentive to start changing, and to be honest, you would have > to PROVE that PDO is as fast as the raw database drivers to warrant a > change from them. Right. Try it. It's faster than adodb, I assure you. It's the as fast as the raw database drivers, because... you'll love, this, really you will..... PDO drivers *are* raw database drivers! wow! Aren't you glad that you went and read up on the facts before making a fool of yourself now?? > At the present time PDO is not suitable for me and just seems to be a > waste of expertise that could be directed to something much more useful > such as improving the core performance of ADOdb :( OK, so don't use it. But *please* read up on the facts before spreading FUD. --Wez.