Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:14725 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 36801 invoked by uid 1010); 8 Feb 2005 19:15:34 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 36755 invoked by uid 1007); 8 Feb 2005 19:15:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20050208191532.36752.qmail@lists.php.net> To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:15:31 +0100 Lines: 32 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Posted-By: 212.238.144.71 Subject: 'double' / 'float' revised.. think about it. From: r.korving@xit.nl ("Ron Korving") Personal recent frustrating float issues made me think of the following... At the moment apparently the C-type double is used for PHP's float (or double if you please) storage. I believe it is the philosophy of PHP to make things easy for its users, and in this perspective I was thinking.. hasn't the time come to reimplement the PHP float type in a decimal-safe way? Of course it would be a small performance hit, but not too noticable I think, especially when utilizing simd instructions which a compiler may or may not already do. I think, especially with todays powerful systems, performance (although still a big concern) is no longer the only primary concern. Shouldn't PHP abandon the speed of the double in C on this one, and implement a custom implementation of the floating point type which is much more accurate, even at the cost of a few extra bytes and cycles? Userfriendlyness over performance. I think it would be one hell of a feature for PHP to be mathematically correct, a world in which 1.5555 is really 1.5555 and not something that approaches it, and where (for example) rounding it would result in expected behaviour. I think PHP would automagically be more suitable for various (financial for example) applications which could potentially result in more popularity for PHP as a whole. I know there are alternatives for accurate mathematics, but they (naturally) depend on strings which make them a lot slower than a native solution would be, and besides that, they are less nice to use compared to +,-,/,*,% operators. It's just an idea of course, and I'm curious if there are others who feel the same way about this. Ron