Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:14622 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 28192 invoked by uid 1010); 4 Feb 2005 00:37:06 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 28176 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2005 00:37:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Feb 2005 00:37:06 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.111.67.240 unknown Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([63.111.67.240:50491] helo=portal.edmscorp.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity HEAD (r4105:4106)) with SMTP id ED/B1-05104-1B3C2024 for ; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 19:37:06 -0500 Received: (qmail 24931 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2005 00:28:11 -0000 Received: from softdnserror (HELO ?10.30.0.133?) (63.78.249.133) by 63.111.67.240 with SMTP; 4 Feb 2005 00:28:11 -0000 In-Reply-To: <051501c50a49$40328430$0300000a@pc> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050201111730.0299da70@localhost> <20050203122955.292e6da9@localhost.localdomain> <02da01c50a13$93728720$a900000a@adstate.local> <20050203195911.512edfd9@localhost.localdomain> <051501c50a49$40328430$0300000a@pc> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: internals@lists.php.net Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:36:59 -0700 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Terje_Sletteb=F8?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [Operators overloading] PHP 5.1 From: darrell@brogdon.net (Darrell Brogdon) I don't think its really a resentment (for the most part) against OO in=20= PHP even if it seems that way. One of the stated goals of PHP is to=20 have a low learning curve and this is something it does very well. I'm=20= sure you can agree that OO concepts typically don't fit that criteria=20 which is why you can still build complete PHP apps without using any OO=20= concepts. So the seemingly resentful attitudes should probably be=20 viewed as one of "lets do our best to keep this as simple as possible=20 while retaining the power it is intended to provide". On Feb 3, 2005, at 4:36 PM, Terje Sletteb=F8 wrote: > Hm, from several postings, I've detected something of a - I don't=20 > quite know > how to say it in English - resentment against OO on PHP lists and > newsgroups. Why is this? Unfamiliarity with it, or what? It typically=20= > gets > expressed as derogatory expressions like "cosyness" or "cuteness", as = a > "quick and dirty" attempt to discredit something without any proper > argument. -- Darrell Brogdon http://darrell.brogdon.net