Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:14176 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71872 invoked by uid 1010); 23 Dec 2004 01:14:35 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71808 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2004 01:14:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Dec 2004 01:14:35 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.148.166.184 conan.ard.nu Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from ([217.148.166.184:34509] helo=conan.ard.nu) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity HEAD (r3983)) with SMTP id FE/C9-16060-AFB1AC14 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:14:35 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by conan.ard.nu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ChHYm-0002DM-91 for internals@lists.php.net; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:14:32 +0100 Message-ID: <41CA1BF7.8030107@iamjochem.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:14:31 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: internals@lists.php.net References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Why we =?windows-1252?Q?don=92t_like_PHP_/_?= =?windows-1252?Q?PHP=92s_anti-Apache2_FUD?= From: jochem@iamjochem.com (Jochem Maas) it may be worth noting that the percieved sentiment towards apache2 (as compared to apache) by the php 'crowd' (and others), is something that php5 may very well be suffering from itself: phpbb (if nothing else, a well known app in php-land) state in their changelog: "running phpBB 2.0.x with PHP5 is not supported at http://www.phpbb.com." not exactly a ringing endorsement. I have gotten a similar vibe in other places. also: the admins confronted with many boxen to upgrade to apache2 with all the possible things that could break on customer sites probably have the same reservations regarding upgrading to php5. seems to me php and apache have a common interest to form a united front in making sure apache2+php5 is silky, stable and easy to install/upgrade. It would be such a loss to see either project lose ground to commercial alternatives (e.g. .BILL ;-) due to percieved incompatibilities/instabilities and/or a percieved lack of direction. either project can stand on it own 2 feet. both projects gain through solid,stable integration. its a complete waste of energy pointing fingers or weighing up which project is the 'greater', I think they are both great and I hope that 'next generation' will team up as well as the current set do. rgds Jochem, -- "what's php4?" Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Via PlanetApache: > > - http://drbacchus.com/wordpress/index.php?p=843 > > - http://drbacchus.com/wordpress/index.php?p=844 > > Season's Greetings, > Sebastian >