Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:14153 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13244 invoked by uid 1010); 22 Dec 2004 06:49:19 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13219 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2004 06:49:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO utopia.in.force-elite.com) (216.255.199.145) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 06:49:19 -0000 X-AuthUser: chip@force-elite.com Received: from [10.0.0.109] (208.57.119.248:50887) by utopia.in.force-elite.com with [XMail 1.17 (Linux/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id for from ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:49:16 -0800 Message-ID: <41C918EB.5060603@force-elite.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:49:15 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Brodersen CC: Derick Rethans , internals@lists.php.net References: <000601c4e6d2$6bda0f30$0100a8c0@pc07653> <41C74D41.7060608@lerdorf.com> <20041220222248.49013.qmail@pb1.pair.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Why we =?windows-1252?Q?don=92t_like_PHP_/?= From: chip@force-elite.com (Paul Querna) Peter Brodersen wrote: > I haven't Netcrafted for the numbers, but I reckon there are more > Apache2-prefork with PHP out there in production than Caudium-servers > running PHP. If this is the case, how can we discourage people from > running one specific webserver, but not all the other webservers? As > the FAQ mentions, Apache2 is a complete rewrite [..snip..] Sort of, Kind of, in some ways, yes. In other ways, it is not anything like a 'complete rewrite'. > > I don't think it makes any sense to discourage Apache2 just because > the reason is that the developers have more experience with Apache1. > Just think of Apache2 as "Yet another webserver" (where the > installation-notes would just mention that it has to run in > prefork-mode) Sounds logical to me. > [a bit offtopic: I really miss the ProxyPreserveHost directive in > Apache1, but I suppose that I and other developers just use some > /etc/hosts-workaround if multiple domains has to be proxypassed to the > same internal webserver. Not all administrators are able to perform > these kind of stunts, though, so I guess that this just doesn't seem > as much of a problem for those people with full root access to the > entire system] > Am I missing something? http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_proxy.html#proxypreservehost I haven't seen any specific complaints out of this entire conversation, just a general feeling that it isn't tested as much. As one of the Apache Developers, I would be happy to help with any issues PHP has in its Apache 2 SAPI. -Paul