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To: Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Negative string offset support
From: sterling.hughes@gmail.com (Sterling Hughes)

i hope not.   this should be about what's cool for developers, the
speed increase is not a compelling reason..  the debate is "does this
make code easier to read/write/maintain?"  I think it doesn't, and
therefore am against it.

-sterling


On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 03:04:45 +0100, Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net> wrote:
> Hello Wez,
> 
>   well it would. However 5.1 aims to be a major speed improvement and that's
> what the idea is about.
> 
> best regards
> marcus
> 
> 
> 
> Monday, November 1, 2004, 2:29:46 AM, you wrote:
> 
> > Doesn't substr($a, -1) work ?
> 
> > --Wez.
> 
> > On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 17:45:03 -0500, Greg Beaver <cellog@php.net> wrote:
> >> It would reduce the errors I inevitably get
> >> whenever using a complex feature like substr().  The three choices:
> >>
> >> 1) substr($a, strlen($a) - 1);
> >> 2) $a{strlen($a) - 1}
> >> 3) $a{-1}
> >>
> >> It's pretty obvious that the 3rd choice lowers the potential for all
> >> kinds of bugs (mistypign, wrong parameter name, incorrect parameter
> >> placement), and is much more readable.  For those who already know how
> >> {} works in PHP, it's also obvious what it does at the first look
> >> without any speculation.
> 
> --
> Best regards,
>  Marcus                            mailto:helly@php.net
> 
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