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Date: Wed, 6 May 2026 17:39:12 +0700
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Stream Error Handling Improvements
To: Jakub Zelenka <bukka@php.net>
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From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

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Hi Jakub,


On Wed, May 6, 2026, 4:47=E2=80=AFPM Jakub Zelenka <bukka@php.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
>>
> As I told you many times, the things that you mentioned can be easily
> added later without any BC impact -
>


first of all, and let me remind you to keep your tone respectful. This is
not ok nor reflect the discussion we had here.

they are not flows but just extra features that you think should be there.
> I didn't ignore it, I just don't think what you proposes is worth adding.
>


1. these are not extra features, but core design decisions for new added
exceptions and flow that will remain for a very long time

2. yes they can be added later and keep the wrong design in the then old on=
e


all in all, it is not the end of the world. I didn't say you cannot
disagree, quite the contrary. I would have appreciated two votes, that is
all.

best,

Pierre

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">Hi=C2=A0Jakub,</div><br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, May 6, 2026, 4:47=E2=80=AFPM Jakub Zelenka &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:bukka@php.net">bukka@php.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi,</div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><br></=
div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>As I told you many times, the th=
ings that you mentioned can be easily added later without any BC impact -</=
div></div></div></blockquote></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">first of all, and let me remind you to ke=
ep your tone respectful. This is not ok nor reflect the discussion we had h=
ere.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote=
_container" dir=3D"auto"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div> they are not flows but just extra features t=
hat you think should be there. I didn&#39;t ignore it, I just don&#39;t thi=
nk what you proposes is worth adding.</div></div></div></blockquote></div><=
div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">1.=
 these are not extra features, but core design decisions for new added exce=
ptions and flow that will remain for a very long time</div><div dir=3D"auto=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">2. yes they can be added later and keep the w=
rong design in the then old one</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">all in all, it is not the end of the =
world. I didn&#39;t say you cannot disagree, quite the contrary. I would ha=
ve appreciated two votes, that is all.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"auto">best,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Pie=
rre</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container" dir=3D"auto"></di=
v></div>

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