Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:130736 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by lists.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EC381A00BC for ; Fri, 1 May 2026 15:05:38 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1777647942; bh=JChcXHfFXHAXfAYB3WmIDllu/qfTsILSN7H8x6A2fr0=; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Subject:To:Cc:From; b=FiAUlNpL9xOPE33wQt1F4HJcjjythsTp8U+agCR0wGQzMOHdBSCgg58Cosng0eWUi tP5LT8SXf+W7TMxCmYst6gY/floK7CG5iJb7/QcGwgZGNG6mSuRL5IQJmlXFND0mn9 2jTCeyq3pOjVAf6Hp20KRPTM2LY/tOLltCEERfVNFePE+tt8KGvqIVv+2xUp0RuI4V pAzWNbomTojRmqABstUPT6CYifBzgCFmdrrPaG5rwBmHDnmNf1nrgnGXo02x923wWz OayAoiwMufa7HaNY5BwYILJAwAr8OTDcvSw+YODKxyj8mlj452RHZ8uLGtLhYdtYr0 1mW5aSnskExTg== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA3818004C for ; Fri, 1 May 2026 15:05:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-oi1-f172.google.com (mail-oi1-f172.google.com [209.85.167.172]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 1 May 2026 15:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi1-f172.google.com with SMTP id 5614622812f47-479dc6d26e3so1199389b6e.0 for ; Fri, 01 May 2026 08:05:28 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1777647928; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20240605; b=QnmvWod4SMy1598SFnC/PRim7RbNNG8xc/6eQ4U6Pk2UQwNEPe5/PZ6aFgUMPoq54l 33hKYkOYHiuOjX4IgVTstUhHNLEu9bzIVBXHQO0ecBdKeasYDBFTPdX/85WKt3B/7LRo 965B5e/TMWPiS0RRBZKLBpVprXOHyQx/f2nJ4QRrdeggCBY+U1hjbzJAIIkPYFsZIjVC cKHop/r9SHZF5zSHhmc2ff8oF3HbZ0BQ9xXTP1jCk0flm1k+lzUTWUV4JeDqsvn979Uc lJayp3oYDOhkJ+dqmCyBA2P8W1JR/ufYFSYm9l3TGaZkx7j2bB4P5y45Rwl+F9+9ad3S 86NA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20240605; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:dkim-signature; bh=JChcXHfFXHAXfAYB3WmIDllu/qfTsILSN7H8x6A2fr0=; fh=F/c8KNXX519ivMB1LGrLZbRHVuk9pRUtTL4yDkSefz4=; b=XE0Y+arYGaZKXFLYtjo3bPHqTubojHhc6i8KNuYJLqf2r6NJxmwmnRP1TU4fFpIRou 7gz2y1xWWvMxSs7XNOGQgnA02eYtNffVBb7wYvGh9h66Ud2UhMTzFYEOp8DpLW7o+dVz HV7trvABZqlpccFGtgMJHROimEFSgFWywck6Kmc+Kr9Q271LF69CWE9xFtceaLtJs0gS Xd3PnYQvPRBlf2yui3y/A+UCfYXUT2NKDU8BNfQA+nSqfte15OOZv2EwD19tibgvJO26 rB78Brp8KaM8V5WcQHkF2Oq15DEiE7GIEwNHYEXNxT8WsA/3s1AjNAzAoqI8cYydI0Ol H5Kw==; darn=lists.php.net ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; arc=none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20251104; t=1777647928; x=1778252728; darn=lists.php.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=JChcXHfFXHAXfAYB3WmIDllu/qfTsILSN7H8x6A2fr0=; b=mZEWhWKpJuFR6vl877C5Dg7AJjBbxNOXapETNiNUgDfagyDbt+jGstAp7NhG3XjR4J /k4VXAxZLspphotaF0xrN7mubwPjWxdks7YXJYWRcl7BU5cYqkTEg6Lue7G5Xe2wHEiG Fml+sUf3sUnPiHtcCxx1q7H+ZhX+LcEUhcxIFAO1eDmp4bee9I010EWELoyjDOgqltdX gpr/icz63e2oY/j6KWewHHSH3h8NFU0ZR5wRxb1we8QaHbqI8iYSLbn2tMOp+DuO1jLC Io/y07onUENOTOfluvNT7e1Hmgal2+9FabvRQOf+ViGvqIKJpZPY7Fv63GHfRHVXduQZ wLyQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20251104; t=1777647928; x=1778252728; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-gg:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=JChcXHfFXHAXfAYB3WmIDllu/qfTsILSN7H8x6A2fr0=; b=Nm5RkuXRgBt5xQZn2K3GCu64kbWEJGBO2Iz+VlVg7oIaeBVpDxuKanSobVMu54lMq4 jSzLGVqUy8W84lHduig0mNjpYXxQGSJr4y7yUVm9xNFN+YClzNDP6qAQ+ck7JqCW7KDc a7f4y8JS/0SB51yqnTFy2QSb2aFawN0U3AUHN8mvL0e7BKQEUKRcbmIb7SyRUwIuCKlz hiI7HFPIct1eYbgNFQIlFtkgC3CRgYnTDVnRaIww2NyjXa8PzeDw8eEf+1R+8UMmgNvr E6kFVHyFWD2jN1ifEIucleqwe5FswzhavUiW1ynklRY2GYgvdy//LXJhBzA1fcLnfLFh /PzA== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AFNElJ9z5L2QJj7qDEKc0/7ouvE/4POpNj1uR2ZGcLZgqKhxczACHPB2TqgdWJJ+pHfSsTR7yqAikyTqLFk=@lists.php.net X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YySY3lU70Cyk31Vs/7mwvrWc3XpPrwEws/nuEtRufmE4KQ0vCUa hvF+zU8qrZutEn0BYYqOgm+vpqeCVTlaVYCy/aTCa0fQvBCwFEh34rNcKuuzKCCvgSYjALByUiU RgZSG0SKEnw2C6hzIR0TgCJ98rq3Dhr8= X-Gm-Gg: AeBDietkcFnDCDB0cZjkyZagFCr8LeY8b78DSaZt7JOUUUC2b6YkjYv96xf15Xi5MYF hAtZfuCAQNtHTqL3rqNGHA6V0R2Wvse6w4XPqPMLDpqQ1TJQHPsx26IJoiONMvH2elQRWlsSBd4 TwFXFuwFUFE0eOMugHaqXH+aa1STVbJ/mvWIfcmquIRL4N7d1hNaj7naeb3mpqfHORlNb2aNR89 Bb/CPN2+SiaR8AdCgY986enUXBxr1J7PQeC5AL2LurFk2Xw81E+6OpeNzZh9GAUItYm8oQ2EA+y LHEde7bkDJLmXL93uLE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:4f4d:b0:47b:d505:d84 with SMTP id 5614622812f47-47c5fd34ba5mr4099216b6e.33.1777647927813; Fri, 01 May 2026 08:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: list list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: List-Id: x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5c3b861a-f3ce-476a-8a24-d059069506d8@gmail.com> <73A3BB52-4642-439D-98BD-051416D405CA@pmjones.io> In-Reply-To: <73A3BB52-4642-439D-98BD-051416D405CA@pmjones.io> Date: Fri, 1 May 2026 11:05:16 -0400 X-Gm-Features: AVHnY4K_TAcJmuZB2bpeyn3lcYZKr1uqQDAgu9RkC6gPOuUx3sN4gpwQoQK8ejI Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Remove the links to X.com from PHP.net To: "Paul M. Jones" Cc: Alex Pierstoval Rock , jimw@php.net, internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000045e83a0650c2e9ed" From: chasepeeler@gmail.com (Chase Peeler) --00000000000045e83a0650c2e9ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 1, 2026 at 8:45=E2=80=AFAM Paul M. Jones w= rote: > Hi all, > > > On May 1, 2026, at 05:27, Alex Pierstoval Rock > wrote: > > > >> Hi Jim & all, > >> > >> Currently, the RFC states: > >> > >>> due to to the current nature of the site, there is no reason for the > project to have a presence there > >> > >> This is unclear -- what exactly about "the current nature of the site" > leads to there being "no reason for the project to have a presence there"= ? > Can you articulate the specifics, for the record, in the PR? > >> > >> -- pmj > > > > Do you really need more details about why X/Twitter is a problem per se= ? > This subject has already been covered in several threads: its owner is a > fascist that promotes and enhances fascism with the help of his networks, > he deliberately updated the recommendation algorithm to create a > personality-cult for his fame, the AI that's bound to this network is > p*do-promoting, most of the people that are still there are either > fascism-enthusiasts or compliant with what the platform has become > (therefore, okay with the statu quo, which means "collaborating with the > in-place system"). > > Great -- if those are the beliefs of the RFC author, they should go > directly in the RFC as supporting language for the reasoning behind the R= FC. > > Then there's a record of exactly who is voting in agreement with those > statements, and who is not. > > If there is some worry or concern about adding the reasons, that itself > will be quite telling. > > > -- pmj > I agree with Paul. --=20 Chase Peeler chasepeeler@gmail.com https://linktr.ee/chasepeeler --00000000000045e83a0650c2e9ed Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, May 1, = 2026 at 8:45=E2=80=AFAM Paul M. Jones <pmjones@pmjones.io> wrote:
Hi all,

> On May 1, 2026, at 05:27, Alex Pierstoval Rock <pierstoval@gmail.com> wrote:<= br> >
>> Hi Jim & all,
>>
>> Currently, the RFC states:
>>
>>> due to to the current nature of the site, there is no reason f= or the project to have a presence there
>>
>> This is unclear -- what exactly about "the current nature of = the site" leads to there being "no reason for the project to have= a presence there" ? Can you articulate the specifics, for the record,= in the PR?
>>
>> -- pmj
>
> Do you really need more details about why X/Twitter is a problem per s= e? This subject has already been covered in several threads: its owner is a= fascist that promotes and enhances fascism with the help of his networks, = he deliberately updated the recommendation algorithm to create a personalit= y-cult for his fame, the AI that's bound to this network is p*do-promot= ing, most of the people that are still there are either fascism-enthusiasts= or compliant with what the platform has become (therefore, okay with the s= tatu quo, which means "collaborating with the in-place system").<= br>
Great -- if those are the beliefs of the RFC author, they should go directl= y in the RFC as supporting language for the reasoning behind the RFC.

Then there's a record of exactly who is voting in agreement with those = statements, and who is not.

If there is some worry or concern about adding the reasons, that itself wil= l be quite telling.


-- pmj

I agree with Paul.=C2= =A0

--
--00000000000045e83a0650c2e9ed--