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Date: Fri, 1 May 2026 09:35:01 -0400
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] Remove the links to X.com from PHP.net
To: "Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]" <imsop.php@rwec.co.uk>
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From: coderabbi@gmail.com (Yitzchok Willroth)

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On Fri, May 1, 2026, 9:32=E2=80=AFAM Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] <imsop.php@rwec.=
co.uk>
wrote:

> On 1 May 2026 12:56:41 BST, Andrey Andreev <narf@devilix.net> wrote:
> >However, I don't understand why unlinking this X account from php.net
> >should wait for all of the bureaucracy to play out first.
>
> For one thing, removing the link doesn't actually solve the problem. The
> account is still there for people to find, marked "official", under the
> control of someone who disputes the right of the project to control it.
>
> If nobody was offering to tackle the problem, it would be a stop-gap, but
> Roman *is* offering to tackle it.
>
> I'm not *against* removing the link, if it's otherwise unanimous, but it
> seems wasteful to have two parallel debates on the same topic.
>
>
> Rowan Tommins
> [IMSoP]
>

If I read between the lines correctly, the person who currently controls
the account doesn't dispute the right of the project to control it, rather
the right of the project sans a method of governance to control it.

If that's an accurate read, the RFC to establish governance, should it be
approved, would solve both issues.

>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_contai=
ner"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, May 1, 2026, 9:32=E2=80=
=AFAM Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:imsop.php@rwec.co.uk">ims=
op.php@rwec.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On=
 1 May 2026 12:56:41 BST, Andrey Andreev &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:narf@devilix=
.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">narf@devilix.net</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br>
&gt;However, I don&#39;t understand why unlinking this X account from <a hr=
ef=3D"http://php.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">php.n=
et</a><br>
&gt;should wait for all of the bureaucracy to play out first.<br>
<br>
For one thing, removing the link doesn&#39;t actually solve the problem. Th=
e account is still there for people to find, marked &quot;official&quot;, u=
nder the control of someone who disputes the right of the project to contro=
l it.<br>
<br>
If nobody was offering to tackle the problem, it would be a stop-gap, but R=
oman *is* offering to tackle it.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m not *against* removing the link, if it&#39;s otherwise unanimous, b=
ut it seems wasteful to have two parallel debates on the same topic.<br>
<br>
<br>
Rowan Tommins<br>
[IMSoP]<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"auto">If I read between the lines correctly, the person who currently cont=
rols the account doesn&#39;t dispute the right of the project to control it=
, rather the right of the project sans a method of governance to control it=
.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">If that&#39;s an accur=
ate read, the RFC to establish governance, should it be approved, would sol=
ve both issues.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quot=
e_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
</blockquote></div></div></div>

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