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On Sun, Apr 12, 2026, at 10:54 AM, Jorg Sowa wrote: > Please, instead of focusing on American political debates, spend time = investigating how to properly manage the assets of the PHP Group. If it=E2= =80=99s true that this account was official and was lost, it poses a ris= k of similar issues in the future. I have clarified in the RFC that the account is dormant, not entirely ou= tside of the control of people associated with the PHP project. I don't = want to get too far into the weeds on project governance on this RFC, bu= t I agree that addressing those issues would be a good idea for someone = to pursue. > And regarding the political statements in this group. This is a perfec= t group, and you are the perfect people to asses it. Technology project = is the best place for such statements. Please continue it, because it's = most important part of this discussion. I don't even know what this means. Jim --473ea2aed88c8b010ba154bc3c3b3cfa18b1d6c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(Please avoid top-posting in this group.)

On= Sun, Apr 12, 2026, at 10:54 AM, Jorg Sowa wrote:
Please, instead o= f focusing on American political debates, spend time investigating how t= o properly manage the assets of the PHP Group. If it=E2=80=99s true that= this account was official and was lost, it poses a risk of similar issu= es in the future.

I have clarified i= n the RFC that the account is dormant, not entirely outside of the contr= ol of people associated with the PHP project. I don't want to get too fa= r into the weeds on project governance on this RFC, but I agree that add= ressing those issues would be a good idea for someone to pursue.

And regarding the political s= tatements in this group. This is a perfect group, and you are the perfec= t people to asses it. Technology project is the best place for such statements. Please continue it, because it's most important= part of this discussion.

I don't even know what this means.

Jim
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