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Sun, 12 Apr 2026 14:31:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface Precedence: list list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: List-Id: x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ThreadId: AD45c57bT0P3 Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2026 13:31:12 -0500 To: "php internals" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <20260412165826.114311A00BD@lists.php.net> <8c0dc770-8009-4710-9764-ae31f7895e3e@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Remove the links to X.com from PHP.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: larry@garfieldtech.com ("Larry Garfield") On Sun, Apr 12, 2026, at 12:54 PM, Jorg Sowa wrote: > Please, instead of focusing on American political debates, spend time=20 > investigating how to properly manage the assets of the PHP Group. If=20 > it=E2=80=99s true that this account was official and was lost, it pose= s a risk=20 > of similar issues in the future. > > And regarding the political statements in this group. This is a perfec= t=20 > group, and you are the perfect people to asses it. Technology project=20 > is the best place for such statements. Please continue it, because it'= s=20 > most important part of this discussion. > > Kind regards, > Jorg > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2026 at 7:28=E2=80=AFPM Jim Winstead wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 12, 2026, at 10:17 AM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: >> > I don't think we should be bringing politics into it,=20 >>=20 >> To be clear: to have, as you propose, an official account on a platfo= rm controlled by a transphobic white supremacist would most definitely b= e bringing politics into it. That is not a neutral choice. >>=20 >> Jim Access was not "lost." PHP has never had a formal way to even define "o= fficial" accounts on anything. It's always been "trusted person X decid= ed person Y was trustworthy, so when Y volunteered to do something X han= ded them keys." All of PHP's "official" social media accounts are techn= ically "run by some dude we're on good terms with." If you consider tha= t a sloppy and unreasonable way to run a major OSS project, well, I agre= e, but that's the project's fault, not that dude's fault. In this case, that dude has long since stopped posting on X, for the rea= sons already mentioned. (I support that decision.) Unless we're going = to force the issue and set up a new account for PHP to "officially" post= on X, removing the existing link is an obvious and mundane decision. L= inking to a dead account is kinda pointless. --Larry Garfield