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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2026 15:23:04 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] Polling API
To: Valentin Udaltsov <udaltsov.valentin@gmail.com>
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From: bukka@php.net (Jakub Zelenka)

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Hi,

On Tue, Mar 31, 2026 at 11:41=E2=80=AFAM Valentin Udaltsov <
udaltsov.valentin@gmail.com> wrote:

> =D0=B2=D1=81, 29 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=80. 2026=E2=80=AF=D0=B3., 23:54 Jakub Ze=
lenka <bukka@php.net>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2025 at 10:06=E2=80=AFPM Jakub Zelenka <bukka@php.net> w=
rote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I would like to introduce a new polling API RFC that is part of my
>>> stream evolution work:
>>>
>>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/poll_api
>>>
>>>
>> Just a heads up that I plan to open voting on Tuesday 31st March around
>> the same time like now.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Jakub
>>
>
> Hi, Jakub!
>
> Why do you use get and is methods if we have powerful prioritize with get
> hooks nowadays? I think that PHP should promote its modern features in it=
s
> own API.
>

There is actually no internal API for hooks so it would require using
object handlers (which is from the user space point of view just __get). It
means no stubs declaration either. We also don't have an internal policy
where to use hooks and where methods. So there are still lots of blockers
to start using it in core.

Kind regards,

Jakub

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi,</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_co=
ntainer"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 31, 2026 at 11:4=
1=E2=80=AFAM Valentin Udaltsov &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:udaltsov.valentin@gmai=
l.com">udaltsov.valentin@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">=D0=
=B2=D1=81, 29 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=80. 2026=E2=80=AF=D0=B3., 23:54 Jakub Zelenka=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bukka@php.net" target=3D"_blank">bukka@php.net</a>&g=
t;:</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi,</div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 30, 2025 at 10=
:06=E2=80=AFPM Jakub Zelenka &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bukka@php.net" rel=3D"no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank">bukka@php.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px =
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello,<div><br></=
div><div>I would like to introduce a new polling API RFC that is part of my=
 stream evolution work:<br><br><a href=3D"https://wiki.php.net/rfc/poll_api=
" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.php.net/rfc/poll_api</a=
></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Just a heads u=
p that I plan to open voting on Tuesday 31st March around the same time lik=
e now.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Jaku=
b<br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"auto">Hi, Jakub!</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">=
Why do you use get and is methods if we have powerful prioritize with get h=
ooks nowadays? I think that PHP should promote its modern features in its o=
wn API.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>There is actually no in=
ternal API for hooks so it would require using object handlers (which is fr=
om the user space point of view just __get). It means no stubs declaration =
either. We also don&#39;t have an internal policy where to use hooks and wh=
ere methods. So there are still lots of blockers to start using it in core.=
</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Jakub</div=
></div></div>

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