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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2026 15:51:04 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] php-community: a faster-moving, community-driven PHP.
To: Jakub Zelenka <bukka@php.net>
Cc: PHP Internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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From: daniil.gentili@gmail.com (Daniil Gentili)

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I don't understand the security part. Do you mean that people could report
> security issues for those community branches? If so, then it's completely
> unrealistic as we are already struggling with handling security issues for
> the current branches.
>


I honestly do not consider seriously any argument based on "it's too much
load for maintainers", including around security (which is still a
responsibility of feature owners).

PHP is one of the most used programming languages in the world.

The PHP foundation, and by proxy its sponsors, are actively paying php-src
maintainers in order to not just make PHP secure, but also improve it in
every way possible (unlike myself and Edmond, as we are both working as
unpaid volunteers, investing a huge amount of time to develop and push
major improvements to the language, for free).

I honestly do not believe that sponsors actually paying the php-src
maintainers would be against the introduction of genuinely useful, quality
of life improvements like async, generics, etc just on the basis that it
would be too much work for php-src maintainers.

Yes, it would be more work.
Yes, PHP needs this to become a better language and compete with other
modern languages.

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<div dir=3D"auto"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container" dir=
=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>I don&#39;t =
understand the security part. Do you mean that people could report security=
 issues for those community branches? If so, then it&#39;s completely unrea=
listic as we are already struggling with handling security issues for the c=
urrent branches. </div></div></div></blockquote></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I honestly do not cons=
ider seriously any argument based on &quot;it&#39;s too much load for maint=
ainers&quot;, including around security (which is still a responsibility of=
 feature owners).</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">PHP is=
 one of the most used programming languages in the world.</div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The PHP foundation, and by proxy its spon=
sors, are actively paying php-src maintainers in order to not just make PHP=
 secure, but also improve it in every way possible (unlike myself and Edmon=
d, as we are both working as unpaid volunteers, investing a huge amount of =
time to develop and push major improvements to the language, for free).</di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I honestly do not believe t=
hat sponsors actually paying the php-src maintainers would be against the i=
ntroduction of genuinely useful, quality of life improvements like async, g=
enerics, etc just on the basis that it would be too much work for php-src m=
aintainers.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Yes, it woul=
d be more work.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Yes, PHP needs this to become a bett=
er language and compete with other modern languages.</div><div dir=3D"auto"=
><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container" dir=3D"auto"><b=
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#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv></div></div></div>
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