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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] php-community: a faster-moving, community-driven PHP.
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From: rob@bottled.codes ("Rob Landers")

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On Sun, Mar 15, 2026, at 15:14, Ben Ramsey wrote:
> On 3/15/26 09:01, Daniil Gentili wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I've seen adoption statistics mentioned a number of times in this t=
hread
> >> and a few times in the RFC, but I can't find anything that explains=
 how
> >> these statistics will be gathered and measured. Will this be determ=
ined
> >> through community surveys? Will PHP need some kind of "phone home"
> >> functionality to gather statistics about feature usage?
> >>
> >=20
> > The plan is to use packagist installation statistics.
> >=20
>=20
> I know those statistics show what versions of PHP are being used, so y=
ou=20
> should be able to see what php-community versions are used, but can yo=
u=20
> gather information on which experimental features within a php-communi=
ty=20
> version are actively used?
>=20
> Cheers,
> Ben

Those statistics also only show you who is using composer. There are man=
y communities that don't use packagist/composer at all or barely. (WordP=
ress comes to mind immediately)

=E2=80=94 Rob
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<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title></head><body><div>On Sun, Mar =
15, 2026, at 15:14, Ben Ramsey wrote:</div><blockquote type=3D"cite" id=3D=
"qt" style=3D""><div>On 3/15/26 09:01, Daniil Gentili wrote:</div><div>&=
gt;&gt;</div><div>&gt;&gt;</div><div>&gt;&gt; I've seen adoption statist=
ics mentioned a number of times in this thread</div><div>&gt;&gt; and a =
few times in the RFC, but I can't find anything that explains how</div><=
div>&gt;&gt; these statistics will be gathered and measured. Will this b=
e determined</div><div>&gt;&gt; through community surveys? Will PHP need=
 some kind of "phone home"</div><div>&gt;&gt; functionality to gather st=
atistics about feature usage?</div><div>&gt;&gt;</div><div>&gt;&nbsp;</d=
iv><div>&gt; The plan is to use packagist installation statistics.</div>=
<div>&gt;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I know those statistics show wh=
at versions of PHP are being used, so you&nbsp;</div><div>should be able=
 to see what php-community versions are used, but can you&nbsp;</div><di=
v>gather information on which experimental features within a php-communi=
ty&nbsp;</div><div>version are actively used?</div><div><br></div><div>C=
heers,</div><div>Ben</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Those statist=
ics also only show you who is using composer. There are many communities=
 that don't use packagist/composer at all or barely. (WordPress comes to=
 mind immediately)</div><div><br></div><div id=3D"sig121229152">=E2=80=94=
 Rob</div></body></html>
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