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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [IDEA for RFC] let the "new" operator fail when the
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From: tim@bastelstu.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=C3=BCsterhus?=)

Hi

On 3/8/26 15:21, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote:
> I appreciate this is mostly just a stub to revisit later, but for the record I think this should have its own RFC. There's a risk of these bulk RFCs becoming a way to bypass our normal process, since each section has much less detail than would be required for a standalone RFC.

Even for the bulk deprecation RFC I try to include as much justification 
and explanation as possible for the sections I add. This generally 
includes workarounds or possible polyfills. One such example would be my 
proposal to deprecate `uniqid()` in 8.4:

https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_4#deprecate_uniqid

> In this case, you will be revisiting a topic where a previous RFC was rejected, so it's important that there's a clear rationale of why either this is a different proposal, or the previous arguments no longer apply.

That's fair, I'll do this as a standalone RFC. Although I don't think 
there is much insightful discussion to be had here. Either folks are in 
favor or they are not, but discussion is unlikely to change anyone's 
opinion.

Best regards
Tim Düsterhus