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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2026 12:56:49 +0100
To: Muhammed Arshid KV <arshidkv12@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE]ValueError Conversions for PHP 8.6
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From: tim@bastelstu.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=C3=BCsterhus?=)

Hi

Am 2026-03-03 09:37, schrieb Muhammed Arshid KV:
> This is to announce the opening of the vote for the *ValueError 
> Conversions
> RFC*.
> 
> RFC:  https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php86_valueerror_conversions
> Discussion thread:  https://externals.io/message/130090
> 
> The vote will be open for 2 weeks (and a few hours), closing on March 
> 17th
> at midnight UTC.

There are no voting options available in the RFC for reasons that are 
unclear to me. Looking at the page’s source code I don't see an obvious 
mistake with regard to the markup for the voting doodle.

I'm however noting that the options do not include the “Abstain” option 
that is required per our policy: 
https://github.com/php/policies/blob/main/feature-proposals.rst#required-majority

I am also unable to find an “Intent to Vote” announcement for this RFC 
in the mailing list archives and the corresponding discussion thread is 
only 12 days old as of now (which is less than the cooldown period of 14 
days after the initial proposal). As such the start of the vote is 
violating our current policy in multiple points.

I also don't think that this RFC has properly been discussed and I don't 
feel it is productive to individually vote on every case of properly 
validating input parameters. This warrants a generic decision, such as 
the one proposed by Gina in her “Exempt input type and value validation 
from BC Break policy” RFC: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/130221

Given the clear policy violation regarding the vote, I request the vote 
be canceled. I would also recommend to withdraw the RFC in favor of 
Gina’s - but that is your decision as the RFC author of course.

Best regards
Tim Düsterhus