Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:130050 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by lists.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38F5C1A00BC for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2026 09:08:36 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1770455320; bh=BU8W3ZYW0bFT6zp8WRpjv4GSXERVajb8/So055fbbyY=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=BJoN+lv+uzyGUTmfExKx/4HMhsVjriJGZFU20Ukk0+9GAX1RroFxqGMqSCkGlS06A Dj8UiyT+7YVoAdfDphMRkKNaiSlMS95Mp+NCgzgwp52TGBrJuQC4pLGuKPoBF9yVSQ ftwD4SaEpdnimxQmPeCNJXL3AKcGCVdROpYNe1/pYprgfiTl0ljOdop2/42U/DWA0H MzJGA/JPEyC7G4A1BdALmQZdNVJmIFV58Fk15lSI1DwchHdLvmO9r5Snn/OkDLwkVh TUtD6XIE9UOif+TtyFcT6j8AkWMLlKhxt992Lvi4h+kUaVzN4Y16HpmRvMAxEUDKcP 3ThqRMhgRAFeA== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F775180068 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2026 09:08:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail.xdebug.org (mail.xdebug.org [176.126.244.128]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2026 09:08:39 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1770455313; bh=BU8W3ZYW0bFT6zp8WRpjv4GSXERVajb8/So055fbbyY=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=EWyAEpWICX8PiFLfdMSsQYj1WW3bcm5ufBdM4IrDsnBR/UmbxHj+taXI0BQc7iTen tsOeTedzh7jY5W4e3F6sRbi/tH+WCT6o1v2CoCp95HJpXRF/hhbJj60u/RRgs0YZVk O1mMj9+EC5fuLVkebb2Y3zLcJsRoVXfwijxYoTJ+hZA7NNvNRPZ757MjWd7pr36NUT Ak0ypxh1N1TeKaxyYGYjNwMGpV1L/0H32L0g7bxjC1NPDGt2NKByK+MB42HvNoF7WY WpNL5LnTT78b66jgtmvwgLIIt5P36t9P+133k+ZI8ICkcA3fAC/80DzL0n0njbbnfM VyPGlWRr4DVqQ== Received: from ehlo.thunderbird.net (unknown [148.252.141.31]) by mail.xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A06ED200BE; Sat, 07 Feb 2026 09:08:33 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2026 09:08:33 +0000 To: internals@lists.php.net, Juliette Reinders Folmer Subject: =?US-ASCII?Q?Re=3A_=5BPHP-DEV=5D_=5BVote=5D_Add_form_feed_as_a_wh?= =?US-ASCII?Q?itespace_character_in_trim=2C_ltrim_and_rtrim?= User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <69868019.40100@adviesenzo.nl> References: <4deea2df.a2a0.19be6247b75.Coremail.lamentxu@163.com> <20260130003750.5CA2A1A00BD@lists.php.net> <886205c77a8fdf08f4ddfb28b7605e51@bastelstu.be> <20260204011605.D6E871A00BD@lists.php.net> <9310fbfc-a7bc-44df-beac-5a46d6b14f61@app.fastmail.com> <8ec76a6c-3dba-4184-955c-cc8ee679a318@app.fastmail.com> <69868019.40100@adviesenzo.nl> Message-ID: <18D991EF-0371-49F4-8193-080C8DCCA25C@php.net> Precedence: list list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: List-Id: x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On 6 February 2026 23:58:17 GMT, Juliette Reinders Folmer wrote: >On 5-2-2026 17:00, Larry Garfield wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 4, 2026, at 11:09 AM, Volker Dusch wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2026 at 3:41=E2=80=AFPM Larry Garfield wrote: >>>> Where as I would, because we catch flack every version for how many "= small" BC breaks we have=2E It hinders people's ability to upgrade and gen= erates bad PR for PHP routinely=2E >>>>=20 >>>> Majors exist for a reason=2E >>>>=20 >>> That claim is completely unsubstantiated, doesn't reflect my >>> experienced and researched reality, and feels quite off-topic, given >>> PHP very much allows for this=2E >> Ask Juliette or MWOP how much the "minor" BC breaks cause them issues= =2E >My ears were burning=2E And yes, "minor" BC breaks can definitely be huge= ly problematic, however, the "BC-break" proposed in this RFC - to me - is n= ot one in that category=2E Feels more like a bug-fix=2E This is what I've been thinking all along, this is a bug fix=2E I wasn't quite sure whether this was considered as anything else, and thin= k a lot of time was wasted in this process=2E Process can be good when it i= s appropriate, but that line wasn't reached for this bug fix in my opinion= =2E=20 cheers Derick