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Thu, 05 Feb 2026 09:39:38 -0800 (PST) Precedence: list list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: List-Id: x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4deea2df.a2a0.19be6247b75.Coremail.lamentxu@163.com> <20260130003750.5CA2A1A00BD@lists.php.net> <886205c77a8fdf08f4ddfb28b7605e51@bastelstu.be> <20260204011605.D6E871A00BD@lists.php.net> <9310fbfc-a7bc-44df-beac-5a46d6b14f61@app.fastmail.com> <8ec76a6c-3dba-4184-955c-cc8ee679a318@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ec76a6c-3dba-4184-955c-cc8ee679a318@app.fastmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2026 18:39:27 +0100 X-Gm-Features: AZwV_QiKBDCM2S-sR_3MNHtJvMHV8fdmENazoM1ZYbYyRbkNnlF6d8j3av5GlhM Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [Vote] Add form feed as a whitespace character in trim, ltrim and rtrim To: Larry Garfield Cc: php internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: volker@tideways-gmbh.com (Volker Dusch) On Thu, Feb 5, 2026 at 5:02=E2=80=AFPM Larry Garfield wrote: > Ask Juliette or MWOP how much the "minor" BC breaks cause them issues. From what I'm seeing, having to support property hooks and pipes as valid syntax was more of a ""BC"" impact for PHP 8.x than all bug fixes we shipped since 8.0.0 combined. PHP has rules on what can go into a release to make this predictable, and it's clear for tool authors what we consider BC and what not. > > But when we can ensure that upgrades are smooth and uneventful, we should= . > We do. I don't think your presentation of how PHP is developed and evolves is helping discuss this, imho, absolutely compliant and sensible RFC (might not even needed to be an RFC, but that's off-topic as well). I'd rather not have this policy discussion again in 2026, but either way, this is the wrong place. Regards, Volker --=20 Volker Dusch Head of Engineering Tideways GmbH K=C3=B6nigswinterer Str. 116 53227 Bonn https://tideways.io/imprint Sitz der Gesellschaft: Bonn Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer: Benjamin Au=C3=9Fenhofer (geb. Eberlei) Registergericht: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 22127