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From: larry@garfieldtech.com ("Larry Garfield")

On Wed, Feb 4, 2026, at 11:09 AM, Volker Dusch wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2026 at 3:41=E2=80=AFPM Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldt=
ech.com> wrote:
>>
>> Where as I would, because we catch flack every version for how many "=
small" BC breaks we have.  It hinders people's ability to upgrade and ge=
nerates bad PR for PHP routinely.
>>
>> Majors exist for a reason.
>>
>
> That claim is completely unsubstantiated, doesn't reflect my
> experienced and researched reality, and feels quite off-topic, given
> PHP very much allows for this.

Citation:
https://24daysindecember.net/2022/12/06/evolving-php/

Nikita's proposal for "Editions":
https://externals.io/message/106453#106454

Ask Juliette or MWOP how much the "minor" BC breaks cause them issues.

I have responded to these issues myself in the past as well, defending P=
HP's approach:

https://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/upgrading-php-upgrades

But when we can ensure that upgrades are smooth and uneventful, we shoul=
d.

--Larry Garfield