Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:129993 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by lists.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43AD51A00BC for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2026 14:09:43 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1770127787; bh=hzdj22agbrXWspqy6DEupJDXumQEJHtZcMJ7+xwGg/E=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=MZSenXiULUfydnmDtU/WlMSfOrlyTFIFlYX3LSH8T1id7hiix/MYIeEwZyIfQuzKn hkmOQIXdc57dyWVk4eu0PPeBwhXGJCUP9HsdnnjAUsW9HWhUnGR8ULTQNikSUhovr/ fWbtN1+cLtTxwBNmtoLvD/F6C+hJBVIObIPa4VzFGUZo4ynMjsAEHifK1V+ZQBjrI5 z7dXgTTY+SV2HquhcGw4MXOSNMQ6tywxTuuWcJumPiDNwU1yS7R9yPXYNeiOUI+SWQ rTRQX9+yBBsvX3juwmuUdhBje3Kbm8AjpoW76ksVhcTbfcAvhRUOxjtoFRLGTuKZR/ UEDZCgOknRNFg== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAF81801E7 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2026 14:09:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from chrono.xqk7.com (chrono.xqk7.com [176.9.45.72]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2026 14:09:46 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bastelstu.be; s=mail20171119; t=1770127779; bh=y74f2KhpBZp4ujBahoFuisASS5fXEEGteRM+11CSfX4=; h=MIME-Version:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Message-ID:Content-Type:from:to:cc:subject:message-id; b=ah0ihMtNFzHAd5iYRC3vN3o9tkHbyuQhK/zOiE/v6UaZ9BH7tLz2qmNFwZ/82dQl/ QMZM6HfpYM7b/uJJ1iDyVAqUe3nsiRj1lbcV9KOty0eC7yWZrxSO5fl3r8UP7G615s UZ5Fj3Px+KTrKa3K1hv0Xq4SMqFsIdjDvx0GTA71p5AYuBlGP+slFmXWl9w/2/UlwB SSG6/HCsBQICJZMN5lO60p3DL2Z6luUCjMjAGVKGcUJkBYfnXBW+eyE5qi7KWE8zxC qaa0yr/yQzr4rMZ3QTJC38QaZPcnl5LjTE42BpfzVn8JDMF+SQnqUnFePbw6DcajAc 0HLubVQyW8r4g== Precedence: list list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: List-Id: x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2026 15:09:39 +0100 To: Ben Ramsey Cc: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [Vote] Add form feed as a whitespace character in trim, ltrim and rtrim In-Reply-To: <20260130005158.45A5A1A00BD@lists.php.net> References: <4deea2df.a2a0.19be6247b75.Coremail.lamentxu@163.com> <20260130003750.5CA2A1A00BD@lists.php.net> <20260130005158.45A5A1A00BD@lists.php.net> Message-ID: <6e099378671fc71c557e05316622087e@bastelstu.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: tim@bastelstu.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=C3=BCsterhus?=) Hi Am 2026-01-30 01:51, schrieb Ben Ramsey: > It looks like you changed the proposed PHP version from 8.6 to 8.5 on > the same day you opened voting.[^1] IMO, this was at least a minor > change (according to our Feature Proposals policy), which requires > notifying the mailing list of the change and should have triggered a > 7-day cool down before voting could begin.[^2] > > I appreciate the work you've put into this, and I agree with the need > for this change, but I'm a little worried those who voted "yes" might > not have noticed the proposed version change on the RFC from PHP 8.6 to > PHP 8.5. From a policy PoV this is interesting, because the incorrect version was noticed fairly quickly, but it was not noticed that the RFC recently changed. When that was noticed, the 7-day window to cancel the vote already expired, meaning there are now two conflicting policy violations. But since this issue was pointed out early on, I ultimately agree with the canceling of the vote. Best regards Tim Düsterhus