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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2026 13:45:06 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] let construct (Block Scoping)
To: =?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=C3=BCsterhus?= <tim@bastelstu.be>
Cc: php internals <internals@lists.php.net>, Seifeddine Gmati <azjezz@carthage.software>
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From: ocramius@gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)

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Hey Tim,

I went for "abstain".

I'm a proponent of functional programming paradigms, and I frequently touch
Haskell / Nix, which have `let ... in ...` and `... where ...` , which are
nice.

I feel like cluttering the PHP language for something that is already (in
my own opinion) resolved by IIFEs (and inlining/optimization thereof) is
not necessary.

I don't mind if the feature makes it into the language, but I feel like it
just complicates the AST further, for very marginal gains.

Greets,

Marco Pivetta

https://mastodon.social/@ocramius

https://ocramius.github.io/


On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 at 10:17, Tim D=C3=BCsterhus <tim@bastelstu.be> wrote:

> Hi
>
> we just opened the vote on the =E2=80=9Clet construct (Block Scoping)=E2=
=80=9D RFC
> (which was originally proposed as =E2=80=9Cuse construct=E2=80=9D, but th=
e keyword
> changed as a result of the discussion).
>
> Please find the following resources:
>
> - RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/optin_block_scoping
> - Official Discussion Thread:
> https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/129059
> - Related Discussion Thread:
> https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/129251
>
> There is one primary vote to cast on the RFC. Voting will run for 2
> weeks until 2026-02-05 09:30 UTC.
>
> Best regards
> Tim D=C3=BCsterhus
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hey Tim,</div><div><br></div><div>I went for &quot;ab=
stain&quot;.</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m a proponent of functional pro=
gramming paradigms, and I frequently touch Haskell / Nix, which have `let .=
.. in ...` and `... where ...` , which are nice.</div><div><br></div><div>I=
 feel like cluttering the PHP language for something that is already (in my=
 own opinion) resolved by IIFEs (and inlining/optimization thereof) is not =
necessary.</div><div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t mind if the feature makes i=
t into the language, but I feel like it just complicates the AST further, f=
or very marginal gains.</div><div><br></div><div>Greets,</div><div><br></di=
v><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_s=
ignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Marco Pivetta <br><br><a href=3D"https://mastodo=
n.social/@ocramius" target=3D"_blank">https://mastodon.social/@ocramius</a>=
<br><br><a href=3D"https://ocramius.github.io/" target=3D"_blank">https://o=
cramius.github.io/</a><br></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Th=
u, 22 Jan 2026 at 10:17, Tim D=C3=BCsterhus &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tim@baste=
lstu.be">tim@bastelstu.be</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi<br>
<br>
we just opened the vote on the =E2=80=9Clet construct (Block Scoping)=E2=80=
=9D RFC <br>
(which was originally proposed as =E2=80=9Cuse construct=E2=80=9D, but the =
keyword <br>
changed as a result of the discussion).<br>
<br>
Please find the following resources:<br>
<br>
- RFC: <a href=3D"https://wiki.php.net/rfc/optin_block_scoping" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.php.net/rfc/optin_block_scoping</a><=
br>
- Official Discussion Thread: <br>
<a href=3D"https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/129059" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/129059</a><br>
- Related Discussion Thread: <br>
<a href=3D"https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/129251" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/129251</a><br>
<br>
There is one primary vote to cast on the RFC. Voting will run for 2 <br>
weeks until 2026-02-05 09:30 UTC.<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
Tim D=C3=BCsterhus<br>
</blockquote></div>

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