Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:129857 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by lists.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BFF21A00BF for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2026 15:54:58 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1769097303; bh=BB1xwKI0VeTiGjzqajV2fEmx6+MECOoWhZfAlzLMz5M=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=LpaPaWhe7V91SD4FSxLWDHiGI3vcqFjr/nuEdTAHI2zvHPcUIchEoJT2UakVYs4G+ ymM+GCQH3yEUF4w5IWNUoMINaLuKqnx8T2woaLUWK/BkFJugvK3Z0RRgyh1mTmc5Ec xJiII4r+kiUGDO+9+XnrUVJDD9qwqhH3NHLzRK/Ve1ZfWfJCqWZEjvWcEqM4yoiO+5 5R8fhB5RBY6qHWiwACcOFB+kaHCk7VgXTo2weYDN3Ys1u2Tty0YutcfRvquaiwCL+k QgHNhPLr/4caDyc5lCHSfghYx3tdpLWlJQLk923ADpt1NliB9rtcZjURIXKnXsI8wr R6FY/8bc8i/VQ== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD5918083C for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2026 15:55:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail.xdebug.org (mail.xdebug.org [176.126.244.128]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2026 15:54:59 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1769097293; bh=BB1xwKI0VeTiGjzqajV2fEmx6+MECOoWhZfAlzLMz5M=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=SfoSoglNLmEtXUs4dafUjNTlr6Ks5aGtuAYiCft00mZ2gs748DPRsr/UsjaJZNAAY ZAG3u/nqtxN6Y91l4RHy2sI1XUje+QGHSIJps9tNBmRanWvYJjx+a0Lu8UqFP4M8ZT 0yC2mo6IvwgCyVxEPA9W+AHqkOxpj85ejj0GF9OSWNwlyMCiO1LS4/GeRhPtuXKGrU +8tbtmCLHsubD3gAqxBxsce8LZeUaoq/EXDXujXCzNjknNPIpx3B3/OLwB3i4tQA4f 4C/KYUEWJzgRl6AmTb8ADgZZFw1c9jnNLtfFwJAdsAA0r5YRlM2CWnzNGAjtaIX1L7 gBUMtMB8MED9Q== Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC5C0200BF; Thu, 22 Jan 2026 15:54:53 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2026 15:54:53 +0000 (GMT) To: Nicolas Grekas cc: PHP Internals List Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Allow Reassignment of Promoted Readonly Properties in Constructor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: Precedence: list list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: List-Id: x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8323329-353311646-1769097293=:924205" From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323329-353311646-1769097293=:924205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Thu, 22 Jan 2026, Nicolas Grekas wrote: > Here is a new RFC for you to consider:=20 > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/promoted_readonly_constructor_reassign I read in the linked PR: =09"Team work with Claude Code opus 4.5 =F0=9F=92=AA" This makes me instantly want to vote no to this. Code LLMs have been trained on all kinds of open source (and perhaps=20 proprietary?) software. Open Source nearly always *atleast* has an=20 "Attribution Required" license. But, these "tools" do not follow these=20 licenses and the required. Therefore, there is no legally possible way to allow AI/LLM=20 contributions into the PHP source code. cheers, Derick --8323329-353311646-1769097293=:924205--