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Thu, 22 Jan 2026 00:26:43 -0800 (PST) Precedence: list list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: List-Id: x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <79CDB2CC-E397-436E-B5A2-10DA1E451A97@rwec.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2026 10:26:32 +0200 X-Gm-Features: AZwV_Qikgt8aILQwOO4g2ey2qOkUnaxIK2FBwVlAr2uJZN3svngB06UxbRX-CpE Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] True Async RFC 1.7 To: "Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]" Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: edmond.ht@gmail.com (Edmond Dantes) Hello. > Indeed, nobody does, and that is a problem. It's not an insurmountable pr= oblem though: we just have to bootstrap our way towards one. Even if a project is governed democratically, a decision-making hierarchy must exist. I have nothing against development processes. I don=E2=80=99t consider them bureaucracy. I consider it bureaucracy when there is an attempt to imitate development processes. Bureaucracy is the creation of an illusion of work, which should be avoided. A good decision-making flow, on the other hand, is a completely different matter. Theoretically, I could of course create an RFC to change the PHP development processes, including the voting principles. It=E2=80=99s "possible", but it would most likely be extremely inefficient. I currently have two options. 1. I can run a vote with several questions to find out what people actually want. 2. Help with implementing changes to the decision-making processes, if there is such a desire. ---- Best regards, Ed