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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Context Managers
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From: larry@garfieldtech.com ("Larry Garfield")

On Wed, Jan 21, 2026, at 1:01 PM, Claude Pache wrote:
>> Le 13 janv. 2026 =C3=A0 23:19, Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com=
> a =C3=A9crit :
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>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2025, at 2:13 PM, Larry Garfield wrote:
>>> Arnaud and I would like to present another RFC for consideration:=20
>>> Context Managers.
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>>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/context-managers
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>>> You'll probably note that is very similar to the recent proposal fro=
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>>> Tim and Seifeddine.  Both proposals grew out of casual discussion=20
>>> several months ago; I don't believe either team was aware that the=20
>>> other was also actively working on such a proposal, so we now have t=
wo.=20
>>> C'est la vie. :-)
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>>> Naturally, Arnaud and I feel that our approach is the better one.  I=
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>>> particular, as Arnaud noted in an earlier reply, __destruct() is=20
>>> unreliable if timing matters.  It also does not allow differentiatin=
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>>> between a success or failure exit condition, which for many use case=
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>>> is absolutely mandatory (as shown in the examples in the context=20
>>> manager RFC).
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>>> The Context Manager proposal is a near direct port of Python's=20
>>> approach, which is generally very well thought-out.  However, there =
are=20
>>> a few open questions as listed in the RFC that we are seeking feedba=
ck=20
>>> on.
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>>> Discuss. :-)
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>> Hi folks.  The holidays are over, so we're back on Context Managers.
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>> [...]
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>> --Larry Garfield
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Just a small question. What happens when an `exit`/`die` instruction i=
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> executed inside a `using` block? Is the relevant `exitContext()`=20
> handler invoked, just like for an early `return` or `break`?
>
> This is probably self-evident, but it is worth to state it explicitly,=20
> because, for some hysterical reason, relevant `finally` blocks are=20
> *not* executed with `exit`.
>
>
> =E2=80=94Claude

At runtime, it's "just" a finally block, so it would behave the same.  W=
hich I agree is absurd, but this is PHP after all...

--Larry Garfield