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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2025 22:35:32 +0100 (CET)
To: "Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]" <imsop.php@rwec.co.uk>, internals@lists.php.net
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] True Async RFC 1.6
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From: mails@thomasbley.de (Thomas Bley)


> Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] <imsop.php@rwec.co.uk> hat am 21.11.2025 21:58 CET=
 geschrieben:
>=20
> =20
> On 21 November 2025 19:42:40 GMT, Jakub Zelenka <bukka@php.net> wrote:
> >I'm not sure if INI is going to be successful. I would bet that it is g=
oing
> >to get rejected as PHP has been moving against introducing INI for lang=
uage
> >/ extension behavior changes.
>=20
> I think Edmond is right that exactly how the "off switch" should look is=
 a ticket for later in the project. A ticket that blocks the final release=
, but doesn't have a deadline other than that.
>=20
> The important thing for now is to have a general model of how code behav=
es when the switch in the "off" position, and whether or not sync and asyn=
c code can run in the same thread, because that has an impact on how other=
 parts of the design progress.
>=20
>=20
> Rowan Tommins
> [IMSoP]

Hello,

from userland perspective I would prefer explicit declaration on each usag=
e of async over declare(), hooks and INI. This would make reviews, static =
code analysis, etc. easier. RFCs can be written in small parts for each ne=
w function, e.g.

$content =3D \file_get_contents(); // sync
$promise =3D \file_get_contents_async(); // async
$promise =3D \Async\file_get_contents(); // async

$contentOrFalse =3D curl_exec($ch); // sync
$promise =3D \curl_exec_async($ch); // async
$promise =3D \Async\curl_exec($ch); // async

$pdoStatement =3D $pdo->prepare(); // sync
$pdoStatementAsync =3D $pdo->prepare_async(); // async
$promise =3D $pdoStatementAsync->execute()

Best Regards
Thomas