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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2025 21:25:33 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] True Async RFC 1.6
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From: edmond.ht@gmail.com (Edmond Dantes)

Hello all.

I=E2=80=99d like to add a few words regarding the 10 percent. Let=E2=80=99s=
 assume
there really are 10% of developers in PHP who use Async. We can
replace this with some number X. What=E2=80=99s important is how exactly th=
ese
percentages are calculated.

For example, if this X percent is calculated based on the total number
of projects, that=E2=80=99s one thing. Suppose PHP is used in 1,000 project=
s.
Out of those, 800 projects are fairly simple, 150 are medium-sized,
and 50 are complex.

Most likely, async would be used in 200 projects, not in all 800. So
if there truly are X% of developers using it, then it turns out this
is actually a very large percentage of developers working on medium
and complex projects.
Do you see the difference?

The difference is that medium and complex projects bring PHP
developers more money. This means that if the PHP language and its
ecosystem cannot compete with Go or Python, then PHP developers earn
less because they=E2=80=99re not participating in the projects that generat=
e
that money. Even if only 5% of developers use synchronous PHP, that
can still be a lot when you recalculate it.

And it is precisely the segment of developers working on medium- and
high-complexity tasks that pushes the language forward.
Therefore, losing 10%, or 5%, or even 2% may actually cost much more
for the language=E2=80=99s progress than it seems.

Skype and Nokia were once great too, and they also decided not to
develop their =E2=80=9C1%.=E2=80=9D