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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2025 02:24:13 -0300
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Subject: Re: A Thank you (was Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP True Async RFC Stage 5)
To: Michael Morris <tendoaki@gmail.com>
Cc: php internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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From: deleugyn@gmail.com (Deleu)

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On Sat, 15 Nov 2025 at 21:15 Michael Morris <tendoaki@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been reading this discussion from the peanut gallery. I don't have
> enough knowledge to really add anything to the conversation, but I do wan=
t
> to take a moment to thank everyone involved. Of the changes to PHP since =
7,
> this promises to be some of the most significant. The care and time taken
> to get this right is greatly appreciated. To all participants of the
> thread, thank you.
>


As another bystander of this RFC, I can=E2=80=99t help but feel that too mu=
ch
effort is being put into an RFC where the author is eager to take it to a
vote that is likely to fail. There doesn=E2=80=99t seem to be anybody else =
clearly
understanding the entire RFC and there are a lot of room for confusion for
voters, PHP users and core maintainers.

Maybe that=E2=80=99s inherent to a subject matter that indeed could be the =
biggest
change to PHP since 7, but given RFC voting history, all signs point to a
rejection vote. I don=E2=80=99t know how much has been discussed off list a=
nd/or
how many voters are involved off list.

At a very minimal, Async PHP would be interesting. A door to a new universe
seems more fitting to describe its impact, but I don=E2=80=99t know how thi=
s RFC
can be helped into a more likely successful outcome - or if my limited
pessimistic view of its results are even valid concerns.

>

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<div dir=3D"auto">On Sat, 15 Nov 2025 at 21:15 Michael Morris &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:tendoaki@gmail.com">tendoaki@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-widt=
h:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,20=
4,204)"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I&#39;ve been reading this discussion from th=
e peanut gallery. I don&#39;t have enough knowledge to really add anything =
to the conversation, but I do want to take a moment to thank everyone invol=
ved. Of the changes to PHP since 7, this promises to be some of the most si=
gnificant. The care and time taken to get this right is greatly=C2=A0apprec=
iated. To all participants of the thread, thank you.</div></div></blockquot=
e><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>As another bystander of this RFC, I can=E2=80=99t help but feel that too m=
uch effort is being put into an RFC where the author is eager to take it to=
 a vote that is likely to fail. There doesn=E2=80=99t seem to be anybody el=
se clearly understanding the entire RFC and there are a lot of room for con=
fusion for voters, PHP users and core maintainers.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Maybe that=E2=80=99s inherent to a subject matte=
r that indeed could be the biggest change to PHP since 7, but given RFC vot=
ing history, all signs point to a rejection vote. I don=E2=80=99t know how =
much has been discussed off list and/or how many voters are involved off li=
st.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">At a very minimal, A=
sync PHP would be interesting. A door to a new universe seems more fitting =
to describe its impact, but I don=E2=80=99t know how this RFC can be helped=
 into a more likely successful outcome - or if my limited pessimistic view =
of its results are even valid concerns.</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-sty=
le:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div dir=3D"auto"></div></div>
</blockquote></div></div>

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